Chops

Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
Ray Allen
Vince Carter

All of these guys shoot over 45% for their career. I consider that good shooting. Now, not everyone can be like these guys. You can shoot 42% like AI and still be a great player, but it is rare. MJ, the best ever, has shot 50% from the field for his career. 42% is bad.

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Wiggum

Well, it's all relative. If you get a center shooting 45%, that's not very good.

I'd consider 46% and above to be "good" for a shooting guard; I kind of see 45% as the breaking point. Then, in my mind, 40-45% is mediocre for a guard, and below 40% is poor. That's just my opinion.

tenkev

To me its all about adjusted field goal percentage.

ADJ. FG% = (Pts minus Field Goals made)/FGA

Chops

Good point, Wiggum. For example, a PF like Marcus Fizer who shoots 42% is absolutely disgusting. I am having a hard time naming an NBA all-star other than AI who shoots 42% or under.

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Chops

Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Baron Davis
Stephon Marbury

They all shoot under 42%. Kidd is known as a bad shooter and the rest are known for being very streaky. I think they are all bad shooters at times and great at other times.

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johnston797

Wagner did hit 3 3s. And got to the line as well. The youngster looks good!

Amareca

That is simply not true

Kidd is shooting 47% or something like that so far this season.

Marbury shot 44.2% last season, 44.1% the season before, 43.2% the season before, 43.9% the season before

He is a 42.8% career shooter. He would also shoot better this season if he wasn't playing on 2 bad ankles.

Baron Davis shoots 42.1% over his career.

LakerMania

Then I guess since Jay Williams shooting 37% this season, he flat out sucks right?

Chops

Yes, Kidd shoots under 42% for his career. Matbury is in the 42% range, as is Davis. I'm not sure what your point is. How is that simply not true?

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Chops

Like I said, it is possible to play well while shooting poorly. Williams also leads the rookies in assists.

Jay Williams shot 46.5% from the field his last year of college. That leads me to believe that he is in a slump and he is capable of shooting much better.

DeJuan Wagner shot 39.5% in college. I'm not saying he can't improve, but I guess the 42% he shot last night was actually excellent for him.

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Wilt_The_Stilt

Don't say Wagner is as good as Williams yet. He has only played in a few games so it makes him look better. For example, if the only game Williams had played in was the Nets game than you would think he should be MVP because his triple double made his stats look great, it is the same thing with Wagner-he has only played in a couple of games so all he needs is one big game to make his stats look awesome. Wait untill he has played in more games before you say he is as good as Williams.

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Allen Iverson

Wagner is for real.

remy23

Jay shot 45.3% in college.
http://www.nba.com/draft2002/profiles/jay_williams.html

Dajuan shot 41% in college.
http://www.nba.com/draft2002/profile...an_wagner.html

Dajuan only played one year of college basketball. If you compare Dajuan's college FG% to what Jay Williams shot as a freshman, they are nearly identical.

41% Wagner to 41.9% for Jay Williams freshman year.

If 0.9% makes on player a much better shooter than the other, so be it.

Chops

Well, I got stats from Nbadraft.net. I don't think those count the tournament. Anyways, Jay shot 46.5% his last year of college. I'm not gonna sit here and guess what Wagner may have done if he stayed until he was a junior. Just because they shot nearly the same as freshman doesn't mean Wagner's FG% will go up. I prefer to look at what they have already accomplished than look at what they might do IF....

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remy23

Why not? Unless you attempt to make an argument saying "Wagner has peaked," of course his FG% would go up after he gets more experienced and skilled as a player.