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Old 12-03-2002, 07:54 PM   #76 (permalink)
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LOL, why is it when I criticze Wagner, people want to jump on Jay Williams? He has nothing to do with this thread, nothing to do with this topic. If Wagner was running the triangle, he would probably be shooting 30%.
I disagree. On a team with better players and a proven offensive scheme, his shooting should increase. The Cavs tell him "Go one-on-one." If Dajuan could play using a timed tested scheme, he would do better.
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Old 12-03-2002, 07:58 PM   #77 (permalink)
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I disagree. On a team with better players and a proven offensive scheme, his shooting should increase. The Cavs tell him "Go one-on-one." If Dajuan could play using a timed tested scheme, he would do better.
No, he is better when he has freedom to create his own shot. In the triangle, he would have to show more movement and wouldn't have a chance to "run the team" like he does in Cleveland. Trust me, the triangle hurts small one-on-one type guards, until they can learn to use it effectively.
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KC, you were the first to mention Jay Williams in this thread!
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KC, you were the first to mention Jay Williams in this thread!
Yeah, so? I'm asking what he has to do with Wagner 2 days after we stopped discussing J-Will. Do you have the answer to that?
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They have nothing to with other. You can compare the two, but that won't acomplish anything because they are two different types of guards.
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They have nothing to with other. You can compare the two, but that won't acomplish anything because they are two different types of guards.
Yeah, I agree.
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Yeah, so? I'm asking what he has to do with Wagner 2 days after we stopped discussing J-Will. Do you have the answer to that?
I brought up Jay Williams because most of the people that hate Wagner only hate him because he was compared with Jay Williams so much. And since Dajuan is doing better than Jay, fans of Williams are jealous of his success and wish Jay was playing that well. Simple as that.
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not as quick but a little bigger
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I find it amusing that this has gone on so long and, yes I wonder why so many people dislike Wagner. I can't understand it but I do know it will be interesting to watch Wagner and Williams match up tonight as the Cavs and Bulls play. Davis will be back so I think that'll mean that Wagner and Williams will be matched up against each other.

Oh yeah, "not as fast as Iverson"? Dang, who is?
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I find it amusing that this has gone on so long and, yes I wonder why so many people dislike Wagner. I can't understand it but I do know it will be interesting to watch Wagner and Williams match up tonight as the Cavs and Bulls play. Davis will be back so I think that'll mean that Wagner and Williams will be matched up against each other.

Oh yeah, "not as fast as Iverson"? Dang, who is?
nah it wasnt a diss. I love Wagner. Played against him a few times
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Well we all saw who was the better ball player between Jay and Dajuan last night now didn't we!
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Well we all saw who was the better ball player between Jay and Dajuan last night now didn't we!
Not really. Wagner played more minutes and took 15 more shots. Meanwhile, Jay had 9 assists.
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Why compare assists when Wagner is startin at the two guard?
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Why compare assists when Wagner is startin at the two guard?
Exactly, get passed the bias KC
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