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Old 08-17-2012, 12:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone know a site for this, and would any of the regulars in this forum be interested?

My ultimate ambition would be a college dynasty league which would be incredibly more interesting than an NFL dynasty league because of the roster turnover every 4 years. Do you take the 5 star QB enterring at Texas with a clear path to being a 4 year starter after his redshirt year, or do you take a senior RB primed for one breakout year, like a Michael Bennett the year after Ron Dayne left? CHOICES!
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CBS does it. It's all right. You can limit it to BCS, or non-BCS, BCS, plus certain confs. As far as info, etc. Doesn't do a whole good frm what I remember
http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/collegefootball

They do use names - last time I played. I've tried to get others involved but no interest. Not since we did it ourselves kind of college draft. Former poster TShock tallied it up

I'd be down for something. Dynasty sounds interesting as hell too.
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Never done one before, but I would be interested for sure.

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Does anyone know a site for this, and would any of the regulars in this forum be interested?

My ultimate ambition would be a college dynasty league which would be incredibly more interesting than an NFL dynasty league because of the roster turnover every 4 years. Do you take the 5 star QB enterring at Texas with a clear path to being a 4 year starter after his redshirt year, or do you take a senior RB primed for one breakout year, like a Michael Bennett the year after Ron Dayne left? CHOICES!
Im with you 100% on that idea. I think we even did a draft on this board once, because I wanted to see how one would shake out. There are a lot of problems involved when you transfer fantasy to college though. Nothing that couldn't be fixed.
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I'd say BCS only. Can someone send out PMs? I'm on the phone at work very late. Also if anyone has friends who might be interested, run the idea by them. I'll check out CBS tonight. We gotta move on this though, I'd say draft next Sunday afternoon. I also think for the first year maybe we just do total points instead of head to head because teams finish on different weeks, but I'm open to suggestions. I'll also be willing for this year to tally up points if we can't find a good site.

One thing i like unique to the college team is a returner/defensive player, but you only get their points if they return a kick or get an INT or fumble recovery so you can't start Montee Ball in that position (although rumor is he might return kicks this year).

Thoughts? We can start with 8, so really only need 4 more guys.
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Alright, here's what I came up with at work today. It is long:

Kickers and defenses are out. They are stupid.

You start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, and 1 Flex. I don't see TE as a significant enough position in the college game to force everyone to start one of them. If you really like a particular TE then play him in the Flex.

16 Roster spots. I am open to much more or slightly less.

Standard scoring: 1 point for every 25 passing yards, 1 point for every 10 rushing/receiving yards, 4 points for a passing TD, 6 points for a rushing or receiving TD, -2 for an INT or fumble lost.

What I've been trying to figure out is how to add a unique wrinkle, and I did post about it in the post above; I still haven't got this nailed down, so maybe you guys have suggestions. I like the idea of starting someone who is not an offensive starter. That is the only restriction on the "X-Factor" or "Playmaker" position. This can be a return man, or a defensive player. Playmakers operate on a different scoring system and if they start then you don't get any points. Something like 1 point for every 15 return yards, 12 points for a TD, 10 points for a sack, forced fumble, fumble recovery, and INT. 2.5 points for a tackle for loss that isn't a sack. The ultimate play is a sack, FF, FR, and return for TD which is worth somewhere between 42 and 49 points depending on how long the return is. This is pretty rare, and would be even more rare that someone started a player who did this. X-Factor players will also get normal points for their offensive stats, so like if Charles Woodson also plays offense he gets points for that as a WR in addition to his defensive and return points. Last year Tyrann Mathieu would have gone a long way toward winning the league and as a Heisman finalist at cornerback that is probably deserved. Offensive starters do not get points for anything they do on defense or special teams.

That's where I'm at on that, thoughts?

As I said earlier, I think we should do the standings based solely on points this year and see how it goes. I just don't know if there is time to think through how to deal with the floating bye weeks. I'm leaning towards just not counting weeks 1 and 15 and playing a regular season in between and if your guy has 2 byes, that's just too bad. But we can talk about this next year. For this season I think draft picks should be awarded in reverse order of finish. Now, I also think that in a dynasty league a pure snake draft is against the principle of parity, so I think the first 2 rounds should be standard (A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D), followed by a snake for the rest of the 16 rounds. This means the worst team would get the top pick in the first 3 rounds before getting the last pick in the 4th round. I think this is fair. HOWEVER, I also want to stress that in the future there will be toilet bowl playoffs and the winners of those games will get the better picks, so it won't always pay to be horrible at the end.

In addition, I think there needs to be a transaction deadline (Halloween is my thought) so a last place team can't drop all their seniors and pickup redshirts. Everyone should hopefully still feel like they're in the hunt at Halloween. I also want to say that everyone is obligated to play a strong team every week; I will accept protests about this and as commissioner (since I'll be tallying up the points and making the rules) I reserve the right to change the draft position of a team found to be tanking. I won't take away picks, but I'll slide you from 1 to 7 or 8 if it's really severe and obvious. I will err on the side of believing that you are just playing the matchups, and if we go head to head I won't punish tanking for a better playoff matchup. I think that is fair gamesmanship.

The next issue is the draft. I had a hard time trying to figure out how to deal with the draft in future years because presumably we will all have a different number of keepers. Keepers, by the way, will be every player on your roster that still has FBS eligibility going into the next season. I think the easiest way to deal with this is to do a full 16 round draft every year 2 weeks before the opening game. 1 week before the opening week everyone will submit a 16 man roster, cutting everyone else on their team. You are allowed to abstain picks in the draft. In fact it's a good time to say that this is going to be a big boy league, there won't be safety nets for the most part. This is being tracked and scored manually, so we can do anything. Want to trade picks for players? I am completely fine with that. Only carry a 12 man roster for some reason? That's what you have. Let's say that the cuts get finalized on Sunday before the season starts. I will publish all the released players, and allow a waiver period. Waivers will be in reverse order of points from the previous year (not always the draft order) and will open on let's say Tuesday at midnight. I imagine this could be a frenzy of pickups and drops. That would be awesome.

I'll start a google group for us, which is basically a fancy way to have an email chain. We will draft in a Google Document Spreadsheet. I will keep track of points each week in a Google Doc Spreadsheet.

If we add expansion teams they will get the middle pick in each round with extra picks tacked on to the 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th round; they will finish in the 12th round while the rest of us go the full 16. It's an advantage, but it should hopefully give them a chance in the first year despite not having any keepers.

BCS + Notre Dame only.

As long as a player does not exhaust his eligibility, if you want to use the roster spot you can hold onto him in perpetuity. You can hold onto Cam at Blinn, you just won't get Cam's JuCo stats. You can hold onto Mathieu if he sits out a year and returns to LSU. If a player transfers to a non-BCS FBS school I'm tempted to allow those stats and grandfather clause the player into the league, but I want your guys' feedback.

And something I'm toying around with is a "redshirt draft". Where we each get to take 1 or 2 players at the end of the season (or maybe during spring ball) who redshirted (for any reason) the previous year and who are not on a fantasy roster already. This would give us something to do during spring ball.

I think that's just about everything. If I think of more I will post it.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Surprise surprise. As you can see I have contemplated expansion franchises, so I would honestly start the season with just us 5. But I think 8 is ideal for the first year. I'm serious, if you have friends in real life that are big into college football, let them know. I'm looking at you dudes in the South particularly. I've actually had 2 friends decline already, and one was an Auburn alum, citing that it would be too much work or that they have enough fantasy teams already.

EDIT: Alright, I have one friend who is intrigued, so that's maybe 6.

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I like the X-Factor position. It doesn't even have to be a return man. Last year, Melvin Ingram had 10 sacks, 2 INT's and 3 TD's. This year, Malcolm Mitchell will play both ways and average 100~ snaps per game. It throws another wrinkle in people's drafting strategies.

I'm still processing the rules for a keeper league, since I've never been in one in any sport before, but that sounds feasible.

For next season, would we draft incoming freshman around Signing Day in a separate draft or would they be a part of the same pool of players that weren't drafted the previous year?
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They would be part of the same pool I think. I don't like the idea of drafting players that aren't even on campus. But I'm open to what everyone else wants; if you want to use one of your 2 spring picks on an incoming freshman, I guess there's no reason why that should be against the rules.

EDIT: You know, I'm actually thinking that it might be cooler to have an incoming freshman draft in spring instead of taking redshirts. 2 rounds and let's say that as long as you don't play them they can be redshirted and kept for free beyond the normal 16 player roster limit. If you end up using them you burn the redshirt and have to drop a player.
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Incoming freshman are already enrolled so they should be fair game in a regular pre season draft. I like the idea of a spring draft for HS seniors, since the guys participating right now follow recruiting pretty well. Im for structuring it as much like the college process as possible as long as it doesn't interfere with the fun and participation of it. Gambling on HS players is part of the fun to me at least.
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Sounds all good. Never done keeper before for NFL or MLB either though. Surprised by no Defense positions but it's not a big deal


I wouldn't mind HS part of it either.
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What do you mean? 1 DB? 1 LB? 1 DL? I am not sure about that. Would make it more complex.
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Oh, nah. Meant single school defense.
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No one likes drafting a defense and then picking up and dropping each week based on match up. It's stupid imo, has nothing to do with player skill. It's either you have the Bama D or you pickup whoever plays Indiana.

I don't want tons of IDP as it makes the league infinitely more complex. Already have twice as many teams as the NFL.
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