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**kansasalumn** · 11-19-2007, 09:29 PM

1-UCLA 193 (4)
2-UNC 187 (2)
3-Memphis 183 (1)
4-Kansas 179 (1)
5-Georgetown 170
6-Louisville 158
7-Tennessee 146
8-Indiana 145
9-Washington State 143
10-Duke 123
11-Marquette 103
12-Michigan State 100
13-Oregon 98
14-Gonzaga 79
15-Texas 74
16-Butler 64
17-Texas A&M 56
18-Clemson 48
19-K-state 44
20-Syracuse 41
21-Southern Illionois 38
22-Pittsburgh 32
23-Arizona 24
---Virginia 24
25-Xavier 23

Davidson 19
Missouri 18
Arkansas 16
Ohio State 15
Villanova 13
USC 11
Wisconsin 11
Baylor 5
Alabama 5
Florida 4
UCONN 2
VCU 2
BYU 2
West Virginia 1
Wake Forest 1

TM · 11-19-2007, 09:31 PM

why is Davidson not ranked?!?!

Nimreitz · 11-19-2007, 09:34 PM

They lost! Why is USC not ranked?

EDIT: Butler seems high. The top 10 looks pretty solidified right now, I think just about everyone had the same 10 in some order.

**kansasalumn** · 11-19-2007, 09:35 PM

DROP OUT
Davidson
Arkansas
NCstate
Stanford
Mississippi State

NON-RANK

Virginia
K-state
Pitt
Syracuse
Southern Illinois

**kansasalumn** · 11-19-2007, 09:39 PM

after watching mizzou playing MSU currently, I can see why they are being considered

Just imagine that KU and MU could have dream seasons on the hard floor and the Gridrion

TM · 11-19-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimreitz

They lost!

To the #1 team?!?!

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Why is USC not ranked?

They lost!

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Butler seems high.

Check out this post at CHN. These bozos are actually arguing that Butler is BETTER than IU.

**coolpohle** · 11-20-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimreitz

They lost! Why is USC not ranked?

EDIT: Butler seems high. The top 10 looks pretty solidified right now, I think just about everyone had the same 10 in some order.

This is the problem with the polls. Probably 95% of the people think that if a team loses, they should drop in the rankings. That is ridiculous, imo. If anything, it should be, if a team doesn't cover the spread, then they should move down in the rankings because they're not as good as they're perceived to be. For example, say the 20th ranked team is playing at the 10th ranked team. If the 10th ranked team wins by a point, that looks like a much better loss for the 20th ranked team than it does as a win for the 10th ranked team? Why? Because a 1 point home win = a 7 point road loss to that same team. The 20th ranked team should move up. The 10th ranked team should move down. But what will happen? The 20th ranked team will drop out of the rankings and the 10th ranked team will stay the same or move up. That's not right.

Davidson lost by 4 points on a neutral court to the #1 ranked team in the country and they don't deserved to be ranked? Please...and this is coming from someone who didn't think Davidson was a top 25 team. They are. It's not even that close, either.

USC lost at home to Mercer. Ranked in the top 25? lol...like I stated in my blog a month ago, Mayo can't carry that team. They lost 3 starters including arguably their 2 best players last year (Young and Pruitt). It's going to take awhile for them to earn that ranking back.

I don't have any problems with where Butler's ranked. They made the Sweet 16 last year, and they only graduated one starter. They've looked very good so far.

**coolpohle** · 11-20-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kansasalumn

after watching mizzou playing MSU currently, I can see why they are being considered

Just imagine that KU and MU could have dream seasons on the hard floor and the Gridrion

Missouri was my preseason #3 in the Big 12. No reason why they can't make some noise this season.

DaBruins · 11-21-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by coolpohle

This is the problem with the polls. Probably 95% of the people think that if a team loses, they should drop in the rankings. That is ridiculous, imo. If anything, it should be, if a team doesn't cover the spread, then they should move down in the rankings because they're not as good as they're perceived to be. For example, say the 20th ranked team is playing at the 10th ranked team. If the 10th ranked team wins by a point, that looks like a much better loss for the 20th ranked team than it does as a win for the 10th ranked team? Why? Because a 1 point home win = a 7 point road loss to that same team. The 20th ranked team should move up. The 10th ranked team should move down. But what will happen? The 20th ranked team will drop out of the rankings and the 10th ranked team will stay the same or move up. That's not right.

Davidson lost by 4 points on a neutral court to the #1 ranked team in the country and they don't deserved to be ranked? Please...and this is coming from someone who didn't think Davidson was a top 25 team. They are. It's not even that close, either.

USC lost at home to Mercer. Ranked in the top 25? lol...like I stated in my blog a month ago, Mayo can't carry that team. They lost 3 starters including arguably their 2 best players last year (Young and Pruitt). It's going to take awhile for them to earn that ranking back.

I don't have any problems with where Butler's ranked. They made the Sweet 16 last year, and they only graduated one starter. They've looked very good so far.

Well Davidson just lost again today by 7 to Western Michigan.

TM · 11-21-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coolpohle

This is the problem with the polls. Probably 95% of the people think that if a team loses, they should drop in the rankings. That is ridiculous, imo. If anything, it should be, if a team doesn't cover the spread, then they should move down in the rankings because they're not as good as they're perceived to be. For example, say the 20th ranked team is playing at the 10th ranked team

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