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06-18-2008, 01:48 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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incorrect. maybe not 6, but at least 10.
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i'm sure they'll deserve to be there at some point in the season because they seem to always be there, but it will be another early tournament exit. they just don't have the talent. singler being a "star" is a joke.
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06-18-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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marquette, uconn, texas, arizona state(maybe).
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Texas :Laugh: Give me a break. You lost DJ Augustin who was the best player on your team. Arizona State is a no, if your saying ASU then why didn't you mention Florida who beat them in the NIT quarters? UCONN I agree with. They have the potential to be national champions this year especially with the addition of Kemba Walker. Marquette will be no different than the last couple of years. A good solid team and nothing more.
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06-18-2008, 01:56 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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Texas :Laugh: Give me a break. You lost DJ Augustin who was the best player on your team. Arizona State is a no, if your saying ASU then why didn't you mention Florida who beat them in the NIT quarters? UCONN I agree with. They have the potential to be national champions this year especially with the addition of Kemba Walker. Marquette will be no different than the last couple of years. A good solid team and nothing more.
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florida lost marreese speights or else they would be in the top 10 most likely. and you really can't base everything on one game when projecting the next season's rankings.
and i'd take teams like villanova, west virginia, and arizona over notre dame, purdue, or miami as well.
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06-18-2008, 01:58 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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Texas :Laugh: Give me a break. You lost DJ Augustin who was the best player on your team.
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did you laugh about texas being good last year? they lost kevin durant who was the best player on a team that lost in the 2nd round of the ncaas.
with augustin texas would have been a top 2 team all year. without him, they'll still be top 10-15. expect big things from james and mason.
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06-18-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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florida lost marreese speights or else they would be in the top 10 most likely. and you really can't base everything on one game when projecting the next season's rankings.
and i'd take teams like villanova, west virginia, and arizona over notre dame, purdue, or miami as well.
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-Of course you would take them over ND you would rather die then give them credit for anything.
-Marreese Speights wasn't Florida's best player. That was Nick Calathes who is returning. They add in another top notch recruiting class and have one of the best coaches in the business in Billy Donovan.
-West Virginia will be good next year but they lost Joe Alexander who was their best player. It remains to be seen how effectively they replace him. Arizona could be better than the teams you mentioned. Jennings is going to be a stud, Budinger should play up to his potential. Villanova still doesn't have much of a post presence at this point although their guards will be awesome.
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06-18-2008, 02:04 PM
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i'm sure they'll deserve to be there at some point in the season because they seem to always be there, but it will be another early tournament exit. they just don't have the talent. singler being a "star" is a joke.
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Don't have the talent? Obviously a statement with much thought. As for Singler... Gerald Henderson.
You know good and well that what happened with Texas was not the norm. They better find a PG fast.
BTW, you mentioning Marquette above Duke... you forgot the "(maybe)" after it  Plus, I can't believe you mentioned AZU, especially when you also said Duke has no talent. The Sun Devils have more talent then the Blue Devils? Please.
Another instance where rocketeer just starts typing things without thinking about 1) what he's already said or 2) what's really the case.
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06-18-2008, 02:06 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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did you laugh about texas being good last year? they lost kevin durant who was the best player on a team that lost in the 2nd round of the ncaas.
with augustin texas would have been a top 2 team all year. without him, they'll still be top 10-15. expect big things from james and mason.
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Texas was good last year but they lost their heart and soul. Losing Durant hurt them but his freshman year Augustin was every bit as important to that team as Durant. He was the best player and your team this year and losing him will be a big loss for you guys. Who plays point for you guys and will they even come close to Augustin's effectiveness? I never said Texas wouldn't be good but ND would have played them tough last year even with Augustin. ND would certianly be the favorite if they played this year. If you can't see why they are ranked ahead of Texas then i don't know what to tell you.
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06-18-2008, 03:17 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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Don't have the talent? Obviously a statement with much thought. As for Singler... Gerald Henderson.
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eh. all of duke's talent is rated higher than they should be which causes the team as a whole to be overrated. henderson is the guy on their team who should be a star. for whatever reason, he just hasn't been one yet.
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BTW, you mentioning Marquette above Duke... you forgot the "(maybe)" after it Plus, I can't believe you mentioned AZU, especially when you also said Duke has no talent. The Sun Devils have more talent then the Blue Devils? Please.
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there is a reason i gave arizona state a maybe. they do have a better post player than anyone on duke and then also have a top 5 player in college basketball. that's enough for me to give them consideration.
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you disagree about duke obviously. are you telling me those other teams aren't overrated?
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06-18-2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
"overrated" = rated higher than they should be. yes. Marquette and AZU that is. I can live with the other two.
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06-18-2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: ESPN.com's Top 25 (June 17th)
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