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08-07-2003, 10:53 AM
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Re: Wooden Award College Basketball Player of the Year candidates
Id have to agree with Andy Katz that 1 of the glaring snubs is Ronny Turiaf, especially when teammate Cory Violette makes it.
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08-07-2003, 04:56 PM
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I am happy with Lanford and Simen as candidates.
Big 12 Players (10)
Kevin Bookout 6-8 So F Oklahoma
Andre Emmett 6-5 Sr F Texas Tech
David Harrison 7-0 Jr C Colorado
Arthur Johnson 6-9 Sr C Missouri
Keith Langford 6-4 Jr F Kansas
Brandon Mouton 6-4 Sr G Texas
Rickey Paulding 6-5 Sr G Missouri
Lawrence Roberts 6-9 Jr F Baylor
Wayne Simien 6-8 Jr F Kansas
James Thomas 6-8 Sr C Texas
Hey that is more than SEC (3), looks like again the Big 12 is better than the SEC.
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08-09-2003, 11:31 AM
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Re: Re: Wooden Award College Basketball Player of the Year candidates
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Id have to agree with Andy Katz that 1 of the glaring snubs is Ronny Turiaf, especially when teammate Cory Violette makes it.
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Not yet. Right now, Violette is better than Turiaf. When Violette was out, Turiaf stepped up, but Violette is currently the better player.
I like the list a lot. Paul Davis could be a major candidate, but I thought he would be left off. One underdog for the Wooden Award is Arthur Johnson. He won't win it, but he will put up great stats this year.
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08-09-2003, 03:36 PM
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I am happy with Lanford and Simen as candidates.
Big 12 Players (10)
Kevin Bookout 6-8 So F Oklahoma
Andre Emmett 6-5 Sr F Texas Tech
David Harrison 7-0 Jr C Colorado
Arthur Johnson 6-9 Sr C Missouri
Keith Langford 6-4 Jr F Kansas
Brandon Mouton 6-4 Sr G Texas
Rickey Paulding 6-5 Sr G Missouri
Lawrence Roberts 6-9 Jr F Baylor
Wayne Simien 6-8 Jr F Kansas
James Thomas 6-8 Sr C Texas
Hey that is more than SEC (3), looks like again the Big 12 is better than the SEC.
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I think they judge on how good a conference is more by how the teams have done at the end-of-the-season rather then player award nominations.
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08-10-2003, 01:11 PM
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It seems like this list is really biased toward the powerhouse programs. Guys like Matt Walsh, Chris Duhon, and Jason Maxiell have no business being on this list.
Questionable selections
1. Matt Walsh - simply not that good
2. Chris Duhon - horrible last year
3. Jason Maxiell - overrated
4. Fransisco Garcia - should break out, but hasn't yet
5. Chris Hill - over Devin Harris? Nah...
Players who could have replaced them (those slighted in bold)
Taylor Coppenrath, Vermont
Marques Green, St. Bonaventure
Gary Neal, LaSalle
Tim Pickett, Florida State
Sean May, North Carolina
Jawad Williams, North Carolina
Michael Morandais, Colorado
Aaron Miles, Kansas
Antoine Wright, Texas A&M
Ryan Sidney, Boston College
Chevon Troutman, Pittsburgh
John Allen, Seton Hall
Bryant Matthews, Virginia Tech
Drew Schifino, West Virginia
Devin Harris, Wisconsin
Demon Brown, Charlotte
Corey Santee, TCU
Morris Finley, UAB
Rafael Araujo, BYU
Matt Nelson, Colorado State
Dijon Thompson, UCLA
Justin Reed, Mississippi
Jaime Lloreda, LSU
Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga
Jason Parker, Tulsa
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08-10-2003, 02:27 PM
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Players who could have replaced them (those slighted in bold)
Taylor Coppenrath, Vermont
Marques Green, St. Bonaventure
Gary Neal, LaSalle
Tim Pickett, Florida State
Sean May, North Carolina
Jawad Williams, North Carolina
Michael Morandais, Colorado
Aaron Miles, Kansas
Antoine Wright, Texas A&M
Ryan Sidney, Boston College
Chevon Troutman, Pittsburgh
John Allen, Seton Hall
Bryant Matthews, Virginia Tech
Drew Schifino, West Virginia
Devin Harris, Wisconsin
Demon Brown, Charlotte
Corey Santee, TCU
Morris Finley, UAB
Rafael Araujo, BYU
Matt Nelson, Colorado State
Dijon Thompson, UCLA
Justin Reed, Mississippi
Jaime Lloreda, LSU
Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga
Jason Parker, Tulsa
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I agree with Matt Nelson, Devin Harris, Aaron Miles (now that Hinrich's gone), and Antoine Wright. I really disagree with Rafael Araujo (the foul machine), Dijon Thompson, Ronny Turiaf, Sean May (not yet, one more year), and Michael Morandais. Haven't seen much of the other guys, maybe a game or two, but not enough to judge them on Wooden Award status.
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08-10-2003, 11:47 PM
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Sean May (not yet, one more year)
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If Fransisco Garcia, Paul Davis, and freakin Matt Walsh can be on the list, then Sean May deserves to be there. He was heads and tails above these guys, and it only took 10 games to plainly see it.
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08-11-2003, 04:25 AM
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If Fransisco Garcia, Paul Davis, and freakin Matt Walsh can be on the list, then Sean May deserves to be there. He was heads and tails above these guys, and it only took 10 games to plainly see it.
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How is Sean May THAT much better than those 3?
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08-11-2003, 11:17 AM
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I watched Sean May at least 4 times early in the season, and he is simply a dominant college basketball player. He's light on his feet, has great touch and hands, multiple scoring moves, and an excellent feel for the game.
Davis and Garcia could match him this year, but if May stays healthy, he just as good as both. Definitely better than Matt Walsh.
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08-11-2003, 04:41 PM
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Yeah, May is a great player. Nice touch on his shot, made some great passes, good rebounder, good shot blocker, some polished post moves, but in his 11 games last year, he didn't impress me enough to think he is already a top player in college. I wouldn't doubt it if he's a top player after this year, but I don't think he deserves to be called a top player YET.
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