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Old 09-30-2003, 05:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Most underrated programs in the country

Someone brought up Wisconsin in another thread.

They are perhaps the most underappreciated program in the country.

2000 Final Four
2002, 2003 Big Ten Champs.

Those are great credentials.
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Old 09-30-2003, 07:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wisconsin is one. They almost beat UK last year in the tournament with their fleet-footed quickness and somewhat surprsing defense.

Other than Wisconsin, Western Kentucky must be considered. They're a great program and don't get the attention they deserve because they're a "small conference program".
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i'd have to say tulsa. i don't remember their exact resume, but since 1999, its involved multiple sweet sixteens and one elite eight. they've been to the second round the past two seasons and had wisconsin beat last year.
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Appreciate the plug UKFan4life! Western Kentucky is indeed overlooked.

WKU ranks 9th in all time winning percentage in the NCAA, 15th all-time in total victories; Have captured 47 regular season and tournament championships, and have appeared in 19 NCAA tournaments. Over 1,500 victories, 1 NCAA final four, 3 NIT final fours (back when the NIT was "THE" tournament to be in), 12 NIT appearances, and 23 All-Americans.

Legendary head coach Ed Diddle ranks 8th in all time wins, with 759 wins in 42 years at Western. At the time of his retirement, he was the all-time winningest coach. He was also the first coach to coach 1000 games at one school.

Western Kentucky currently has the longest home winning streak at 39 games.
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i'd have to say tulsa. i don't remember their exact resume, but since 1999, its involved multiple sweet sixteens and one elite eight. they've been to the second round the past two seasons and had wisconsin beat last year.
I agree, Tulsa. Tulsa also has been a breeding ground for many top notch programs

Kansas-Bill Self(after Tulsa, to Illinois)
UNC Assistant-Steve Robinson(Florida St, then KU assist, then UNC)
Kentucky-Tubby Smith
Buzz Peterson---brain fart, he went somewerhe too, forgot where.

Very good program. They ahve to compete with two other state schools OU and OSU. They seem to do a good job at it.
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No doubt it's Tulsa. Most fans and media in Oklahoma don't even recognize Tulsa at all athletically in it's own state. Basically there is just OSU and OU.
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Tulsa is definitely overlooked year in and year out. They make a living out of beating good teams in the tournament and they never ever seem to go down without a fight.

In 1994 - Lost in Sweet Sixteen to Arkansas (after upsetting UCLA and Oklahoma State)
In 1995 - Lost in Sweet Sixteen to UMass (Tubby's last season with them)
In 1996 - first round loss to Lousville in Overtime
In 1997 - NIT
In 1998 - lose to Clemson in the 2nd round after beating Boston U.
In 1999 - lose to Duke in 2nd round after beating College of Charleston.
In 2000 - lose to UNC in Elite Eight by 5 points.
In 2001 - Win the NIT (Buzz Peterson then leaves for Tennessee)
In 2002 - lose to Kentucky 87-82 (Tayshaun Prince had 41) in 2nd round after Beating Marquette
In 2003 - lose to Wisconsin 61-60 after having them beat the whole game in the 2nd round after creaming Dayton.
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Temple is a consistently scary team. Nobody ever looks forward to playing the Owls.

Elite Eight a couple years ago.
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Temple is a consistently scary team. Nobody ever looks forward to playing the Owls.

Elite Eight a couple years ago.
The thing about them is they always lack talent to be elite, but the have the best coach in the country. Chaney will outcoach any1 and come up with a game plan that gives them a chance to win every game they play.
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Old 10-01-2003, 02:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Temple should have got further when they had Aaron McKie and Eddie Jones. Plus a few of their big men from those teams played a few games in the NBA.

That team should have did better.
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Temple should have got further when they had Aaron McKie and Eddie Jones. Plus a few of their big men from those teams played a few games in the NBA.

That team should have did better.
In 1988 w/ Mark Macon, he should have made the Final Four but that darn Coach K beat him.

In 2000 w/ Pepe Sanchez, Kevin Lyde and Mark Karcher should have made the Final Four and they got upset by 10 seed Seton Hall and Ty Shine hitting 8 threes and playing the game of his life.

It's funny every year Temple went to the Elite Eight I picked them to go that far. In 1999, when they lost to National Runner Up Duke and in 2001 when they lost to Michigan State in the South Regional Final.

In 1993, they almost beat the Fab Five.

The guy truly can coach though.
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I agree, Tulsa. Tulsa also has been a breeding ground for many top notch programs

Kansas-Bill Self(after Tulsa, to Illinois)
UNC Assistant-Steve Robinson(Florida St, then KU assist, then UNC)
Kentucky-Tubby Smith
Buzz Peterson---brain fart, he went somewerhe too, forgot where.

Very good program. They ahve to compete with two other state schools OU and OSU. They seem to do a good job at it.
They are playing "Buzz Ball" down here in Knoxville. If he don't do some big things quick, he won't be around for long.

Anyways, I'd have to say that both WKU and Tulsa are both very underrated.
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