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Old 06-23-2005, 11:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

Wouldn't you rather go 1 year to college? Is this for prospects who don't get the grades? or borderline prospects?
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

If you're Lebron, why would you go to college? Why not get paid for one year, knowing you'll be the No. 1 pick regardless. If you're OJ Mayo, why go to college, when you'll be the No. 1 pick the following year?

Take the shoe deal and get paid in the NBDL for a year. You can't get a degree in one year.
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

I think we will see a spilt on this one. If a player has the grades, I would assume college would be the more fun option but atleast not the only option any more. I am sure the NBDL will look better then going overseas though, except the money situtation might be better overseas. Either way I think the NBDL and players are in good spots. A high school player can still make a living, they just can't be mega millionaires till 19
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

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If you're Lebron, why would you go to college? Why not get paid for one year, knowing you'll be the No. 1 pick regardless. If you're OJ Mayo, why go to college, when you'll be the No. 1 pick the following year?

Take the shoe deal and get paid in the NBDL for a year. You can't get a degree in one year.
no. 1 prospect going to Duke or some other high profile program will have so much more exposure than the NBDL. Maybe things will change with hype but I don't see too many minor league baseball teams with top prospects get on TV while Duke is on 2 to 3 times a week. (although I've seen some nbdl day games on ESPN)

Some could argue you can make more in college than in the NBDL (with the fake jobs and all). but you make a good point with the early shoe deal.

Are there NBDL groupies? If there are, does it matchup to recruiting party women?
Is there a chance to win a championship in the NBDL? Do you actually do work freshmen year in college?
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

If it were my choice I would go to college for a year. The NBDL is not going to be as fun as college would be. You have better fans, better coaches, and a place where you are surronded by more than just your teamates.

On the other hand, it gives good high School players a reason to not get good grades. They can just avoid graduating one year and then they can jump from high school to the pros... It is that simple. If they don't they can just go to the draft and get drafted over potential, and get paid to play basketball in the NBDL. Amir Johnson anyone... But I think the 19 year old age limit did it good to take that option out. But still the guys will slack in school and just jump from their freshmen year to the NBDL...

I think in the next few years we are going to see a lot more "Amir Johnson" situations that help them avoid going to college and getting drafted. If that means sitting out one year of the draft and going to play overseas and then coming back to get drafted when you are 19, then they will do it...

Lets just say it will get interesting..
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

You could just go to college for one year and take all the easy classes since your not looking to graduate. It wouldnt be hard in school. Plus you do get alot of hype in college. But the coahing and development for the NBA would be alot better in the D-Leauge cuz you got coaching with a empahisis towards the NBA game. You go aganist better competition. You see a little bit what it likes on the road in the NBA.
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

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no. 1 prospect going to Duke or some other high profile program will have so much more exposure than the NBDL. Maybe things will change with hype but I don't see too many minor league baseball teams with top prospects get on TV while Duke is on 2 to 3 times a week. (although I've seen some nbdl day games on ESPN)
Does it really matter? If you're a Lebron or Amare, you're there for one season and you're getting paid from your shoe contract and the NBDL salary.

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Some could argue you can make more in college than in the NBDL (with the fake jobs and all). but you make a good point with the early shoe deal.
Again, it's only one year. What fake job do you have during the school year? I don't see you getting a job to pay you more than 50K, if you don't stay longer then one year, you'll never even get the fake job.

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Well, the selling of sex with coeds rubs me the wrong way, but the NBDL is situated in college towns like Alburquerque (Univ. of New Mexico), Tulsa (Tulsa Univ. and Oral Roberts), Little Rock (Ark.-Little Rock), Austin (Univ. of Texas), Ft. Worth (Texas Christian Univ.). If you're a guy playing in the NBDL, I'm sure you could get plenty of butt from college aged females. I still don't like the thought of recruiting parties.

If the NBA puts an NBDL team in Long Beach (Long Beach State), the players that play there will get many, many opportunities to get laid. Heck, you don't have to be a player to have that happen.

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The NBDL has been in existence for 3 years and there is an NBDL playoffs and championship. Well, if you're not going to do work at all in college, why would you go? Why would anyone want kids in college, who don't actually do the work? Wouldn't you want those kids to start their career in basketball sooner? Why pretend to be a student?
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Re: Will top high school prospects want to go to the NBDL?

It probably depends on the player. I think a guy like Dwight Howard who came from the background that he did, I think guys like him will be more likely to go to college for a year.
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I think the major draw to going to college would be the tournament. It is covered so much and is huge, alot of people have made names for themselves. I personally would go for that oppurtunity, to become a star through the tournament.
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I think the major draw to going to college would be the tournament. It is covered so much and is huge, alot of people have made names for themselves. I personally would go for that oppurtunity, to become a star through the tournament.
Let me ask you a question. I had this conversation with Philly Phanatic already. What game most sticks out for you (not including this year) from the NCAA tournament from the past 5 years?

If you ask this question to most people, if it isn't their favorite college team, they couldn't give you a straight answer at all. I'll give you a few for me.

2004 - UAB knocking off Kentucky
2003 - Marquette beating Missouri in OT (Wade and Paulding going at it)
2002 - Duke choking against Indiana
2001 - Jason Williams (Duke) scoring 16 straight points to beat UCLA in the Sweet Sixteen
2000 - Florida beating Butler in OT on Mike Miller's buzzer beater
1999 - Weber State knocking off UNC behind Harold Arceneaux
1998 - Rip Hamilton's buzzer beater over Washington in the Sweet Sixteen
1997 - Coppin State beating South Carolina in a 15 vs. 2 upset
1996 - John Wallace hitting clutch shots over Georgia on Syracuse's ride to the National Championship game.

Now, I sometimes wonder, if I didn't record the NCAA tournament and watch these games when I have free time over again, would I remember them. Ask your random fan on the street or even your biggest college basketball fan if they remember all of these things and I guarantee you they wouldn't remember them. That stuff is all off the top of my head.

The tournament fame is the biggest crock of crap I've ever heard in my life.

No one remembers Dan Cross and Craig Brown from Florida's 1994 Final Four run.
No one remembers Toby Bailey doing his thing in the 1995 Final Four.
No one remembers Dontae Jones from the 1996 Final Four.
No one remembers Sam Jacobsen from Minnesota in the 1997 Final Four
No one remembers Arthur Lee from Stanford from the 1998 Final Four.
No one remembers that Michael Redd played in the Final Four in 1999.
What about Mark Vershaw in 2000 for Wisconsin?
Do people even remember Jason Richardson playing in the 2001 Final Four?

People always forget about this stuff, unless it affects you personally. Duke fans will never forget Duke moments, but look how many guys from the last decade that no one remembers. We remember Jordan's moments, because he became a huge superstar NBA player. Do we ever see clips of Shaq in college? No. What about Duncan? No. Why, because they didn't win titles in college. However if Gordon and Okafor become superstars or Marvin Williams, the NCAA will use their NBA fame to market their game, by showing a big shot from Emeka or Ben or Marvin putting back a missed shot.

I've been watching college basketball all my life and maybe it's because I have a great memory, but most people couldn't tell you all the Sweet Sixteen teams this past season without looking it up.

In my opinion, the tournament experience is overrated, because the only