View Poll Results: Which direction would you have taken with the team?
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Keep our big three together from the 02-03 WCF team
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What we have now; younger, more athletic, cheaper, defensive team.
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08-16-2005, 04:23 PM
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05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
Lets say we turned back the hands of time and we decided to keep our WCF team in tact. Ideally we would have:
Dirk Nowitzki
Michael Finley (who knows we might have still cut him by now but for arguments sake lets leave him here)
Steve Nash
Nick Van Exel
Raef Lafrentz
Eduardo Najera
Tariq Abdul-wahad
Raja Bell
(added from that year's draft)
Marquis Daniels
Josh Howard
Compared to the roster we have now:
Darrell Armstrong
Marquis Daniels
Devin Harris
Josh Howard
DJ Mbenga
Dirk Nowitzki
Pavel Podkolzin
Jerry Stackhouse
Jason Terry
Keith Van Horn
Erick Dampier
Our team now definatly is younger, more athletic and can play D. On the other hand, the 02-03 squad would have plenty of playoff expierence and could shoot the lights out. Don't forget, our cap situation with the 02-03 team would be twice as bad our current cap situation. With all this said... Which would you take?
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That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes;
That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race;
That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the
rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained.."
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08-16-2005, 04:26 PM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
its really hard to choose..... yeah but i have to go wit the present roster... were yound and can develop these players into champs i no we have barely any playoff experience but mayb we will fin dout the true champion in dirk nowitzki.. so yeah real hard to choose but our roster now is the one i gota choose
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08-16-2005, 08:23 PM
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BasketballBoards 6th Man
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
It's easy for me to pick the currect roster because of the defensive aspect. The 02-03 team had incredible luck in the playoffs against the Balzers and Kings. Both of those teams suffered injuries especially with the Kings losing C-Webb. The Mavs showed their true colors that year when the Spurs came back in the 4th quarter. They couldn't make a stop and it end up costing them a chance to the finals.
The current team is more equiped to play different styles of basketball. They are more athletic and have a real center. Also, can make stops when needed to and take it inside more. I think with time this team will prove how good it can be. AJ is trying to mold this team into a SA style which means being a contender every year. It might not be the most exciting style but winning is all that matters in the end. No matter if it's exciting basketball or not.
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1) Start Devin Harris at point guard.
2) Start Jerry Stackhouse at shooting guard.
3) Make Jason Terry the sixth man.
4) Sign/trade for athletic center.
Michael Finley was the true heart of the Mavericks.
6-23-05 -- The day the albatrose Shawn Bradley was taken from around the neck of the Dallas Mavericks.
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08-17-2005, 06:54 AM
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Little General's Soldier
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by stevemc
Our team now definatly is younger, more athletic and can play D. On the other hand, the 02-03 squad would have plenty of playoff expierence and could shoot the lights out. Don't forget, our cap situation with the 02-03 team would be twice as bad our current cap situation. With all this said... Which would you take?
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You have to have the defense. Defense, defense, defense. It's why the Mavs haven't taken the next step and it's why Phoenix was never a serious threat to win the championship last year.
The Mavericks are just now finally getting on the right track. We just have to get Dampier's head out of his arse and get Dirk to understanding the finer differences between leading and screaming.
This team is so close and definitely, easily has the ability to take the next step if Avery can teach and convince them to play at least good defense (doesn't have to be great).
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08-17-2005, 08:20 AM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
I would still make the major move of getting Dirk out of here...unless I could some how make him the #2 option...
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08-17-2005, 10:46 AM
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BasketballBoards 6th Man
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by Dragnsmke1
I would still make the major move of getting Dirk out of here...unless I could some how make him the #2 option...
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So who are we going to trade him for? Amare Stoudimaire? He is a top 10 player and is STILL devloping. What the Mavs need is more players who are versatile. They are trying now to devlope them in Howard, Daniels, and Harris. Dirk carries this team in a lot of situations cause of his versatile game. He's not the problem the depth and quality of the roster is.
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Dallas Mavericks Off-Season Moves List
1) Start Devin Harris at point guard.
2) Start Jerry Stackhouse at shooting guard.
3) Make Jason Terry the sixth man.
4) Sign/trade for athletic center.
Michael Finley was the true heart of the Mavericks.
6-23-05 -- The day the albatrose Shawn Bradley was taken from around the neck of the Dallas Mavericks.
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08-17-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by Dragnsmke1
I would still make the major move of getting Dirk out of here...unless I could some how make him the #2 option...
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Once again... Dirk for KG!
It'd be nice to move Dirk for KG but outside of that I don't really think it'd be worth moving him. I really hope Dirk does improve his post game and post defense this offseason other wise I'll be screamin for his plane ticket to Minny all season. 
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"That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently
discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation;
That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes;
That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race;
That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the
rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained.."
ONE LOVE
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08-18-2005, 10:59 AM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
no dirk stays. kg is a loser and a cancer. i hate his attitude
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08-19-2005, 03:54 PM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by mff4l
no dirk stays. kg is a loser and a cancer. i hate his attitude
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His win at all costs attitude just blows huh?
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"That until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently
discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation;
That until the color of a man's skin is of no more significance than the color of his eyes;
That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race;
That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the
rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained.."
ONE LOVE
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08-20-2005, 02:10 PM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by Mavs41
(Dirk) is a top 10 player and is STILL devloping.
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"What" he is developing into remains to be seen, as far as I'm concerned.
What concerns me the most about this team is that we may have overestimated Dirk's potential; which, of course, is not his fault. If this season unfolds with our younger players surprising us with progress (offensively and defensively), but Dirk can't play at the level of intensity to match - what then ?
The unthinkable, that's what. 
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08-20-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
Dirk really is gonna have to play with intensity this year. Last season, he showed some serious aggression by picking up techs.
I like the team we have now. Defensive, Younger, athletic and cheaper.
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08-31-2005, 08:06 AM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
do you think guys dirk's game will be effected by his mentor going to jail?
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08-31-2005, 08:22 AM
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Little General's Soldier
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
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Originally Posted by frosted-dirk
do you think guys dirk's game will be effected by his mentor going to jail?
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He's out of jail now, and comments from Dirk give indication they've been talking and working together and that Dirk is feeling better about the situation.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont....17fc18af.html
" BERLIN – Dirk Nowitzki's longtime coach and confidant was released by a German court after five weeks in jail on tax evasion charges. Prosecutors suspect Holger Geschwindner, whom the Mavericks forward calls a second father, of failing to declare money he received from Nowitzki. The investigation will continue.
"I'm very happy that Holger has been released – that's very important to me, especially in regard to preparing for the European championships," Nowitzki said."
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08-31-2005, 08:25 AM
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Re: 05-06 Mavs or 02-03 Mavs
Im happy he was released because I didnt want that situation to affect Dirk's game.
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