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Old 08-29-2005, 12:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Excited?!?!?!

Nasty... I'm over finley being gone, and I think it's a good thing that we aren't relyting on him as a second player. But thats only if he was still around, from a team standpoint I'd prefer Finley to Christie. easily..

Will we still be good? Maybe. But that has got nothing to do wit the signings of this offseason, more to do with Dirk and the others stepping up.. The only positives from this offseason has been signing Rawle and Josh.

And to future, really doubt that Terry should be our second option, he's our PG. Call me traditional (like avery) but he shouldn't be the one jacking up shots. Stack? ewww thats horrid, his FG% would be lower than ever, neither of those options make sense. While we may not need a 'superstar' second option, we need someone who can score consistantly, that wont be required to also run the offence..
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Nasty... I'm over finley being gone, and I think it's a good thing that we aren't relyting on him as a second player. But thats only if he was still around, from a team standpoint I'd prefer Finley to Christie. easily..
I don't agree here even though I've always like Finley. Christie may be older and may have less scoring potential than Finley, but we have other people who can score. Christie can handle the ball much better than Finley, can play good defense on the perimeter, and knows how to defend the pick and roll....all glaring holes this team had last year.

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Will we still be good? Maybe. But that has got nothing to do wit the signings of this offseason, more to do with Dirk and the others stepping up.. The only positives from this offseason has been signing Rawle and Josh.
I don't know how you get "maybe" out of this. This team will still be a powerhouse in the strongest division in the league. And I firmly believe Christie makes the team stronger by being here, not weaker.

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And to future, really doubt that Terry should be our second option, he's our PG. Call me traditional (like avery) but he shouldn't be the one jacking up shots.
The expectation is that when you have a guy in the backcourt like Christie who can also run the point then that frees Jason up for more of a shooting guard role. Kinda like how Sacramento would use him to handle the ball and get Bibby set up for good looks.

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Stack? ewww thats horrid, his FG% would be lower than ever, neither of those options make sense. While we may not need a 'superstar' second option, we need someone who can score consistantly, that wont be required to also run the offence..
I agree with you on Stackhouse. I've never been too keen on his percentage and streakiness. I do think he's a valuable 6th man though. Plus if Josh Howard and Marquis can continue to bring the good energy going after boards and loose balls and work on a jumper you've got a really good mix there.
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Old 08-31-2005, 02:26 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Excited?!?!?!

Firstly, well done. It's always good for someone to present points and even though I dont agree with them all I can understand where you're coming from. Repped.
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I don't know how you get "maybe" out of this. This team will still be a powerhouse in the strongest division in the league. And I firmly believe Christie makes the team stronger by being here, not weaker.
This is something we can have our different opinions on, yes Christie is a vastly superior defender and ball handler I still beleive that we will dearly miss Finelys offensive production. As inconsistent as it was, we lost a scorer without gaining another one. To me that screams that we're getting worse. Finley > Christie and even in terms of impact on the team (both on and off the court) I beleive that Finley > Christie...



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The expectation is that when you have a guy in the backcourt like Christie who can also run the point then that frees Jason up for more of a shooting guard role. Kinda like how Sacramento would use him to handle the ball and get Bibby set up for good looks.
I agree with this point, how ever this will only work for small stretches. I don't think christie is good enough to be the primary play maker for long stretches.



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I agree with you on Stackhouse. I've never been too keen on his percentage and streakiness. I do think he's a valuable 6th man though. Plus if Josh Howard and Marquis can continue to bring the good energy going after boards and loose balls and work on a jumper you've got a really good mix there.
Stack is definately valuble as a 6th man, he continues our recent tradition of having immediate fire power off the bench.
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Old 08-31-2005, 05:07 AM   #19 (permalink)
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This is something we can have our different opinions on, yes Christie is a vastly superior defender and ball handler I still beleive that we will dearly miss Finelys offensive production. As inconsistent as it was, we lost a scorer without gaining another one. To me that screams that we're getting worse. Finley > Christie and even in terms of impact on the team (both on and off the court) I beleive that Finley > Christie...
Fin's shots are going to be divided up among other guys now. First, I think it's important to figure out if those shots, when divided up, will have a greater or lesser efficiency for the team than when Fin takes them. Then we'll need to figure out if having someone other than Fin on the court makes it easier or harder for other guys to score.

I'm expecting Christie to get a few of Mike's shots, but the rest will probably go to Dirk and Terry. Obviously when Marquis is in he's less of an outside threat than Fin was. But I firmly believe Dirk is a better shooter, and I also think that at this stage of his career Terry is more of a threat than Fin is. It's why I think his offense won't be missed as much as I expect Terry's scoring to increase. And let's not forget that Christie isn't exactly horrid out there either. He can hit the outside shot and when he does that helps keep the defense honest.

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I agree with this point, how ever this will only work for small stretches. I don't think christie is good enough to be the primary play maker for long stretches.
No, I agree with you that Doug isn't going to be the primary point on the team. And I really will be surprised if he averages much more than 30 minutes per game this season. But just the fact of having another guy who can legitimately set up the offense gives us another dimension that we didn't have with Fin.
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Overall, I think that simply extracting Fin from the roster should give the team a lift; if he was still here, the younger guys would be hesitant to take that step.
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