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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
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i just wished he brought more to the table then just yelling and getting through the player's head
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So you're saying you'd rather have the players stomping all over him? You're constantly confusing me in this thread.
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07-18-2006, 09:47 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
http://www.basketballreference.com/p...lkid=NOWITDI01
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Similar Players (Career)
Tracy Mcgrady (933)
Vince Carter (892)
Paul Pierce (864)
Jamal Mashburn (845)
Glenn Robinson (828)
Cuttino Mobley (828)
Antawn Jamison (815)
Jerry Stackhouse (814)
Dan Issel* (813)
David Thompson* (810)
*In Hall of Fame
About the Similarity Scores :
Similarity scores were developed by Bill James for baseball about 15 years ago in his book The Politics of Glory. The score is calculated by starting at 1000 and then subtracting off the statistical differences between the players.
One point for each difference of 8 games played
One point for each difference of 300 minutes
One point for each difference of .18 in ppg
One point for each difference of 140 fgm
One point for each difference of 320 fga
One point for each difference of 60 ftm
One point for each difference of 100 fta
One point for each difference of 20 3ptm
One point for each difference of 50 3pta
One point for each difference of 260 reb
One point for each difference of 80 asts
One point for each difference of 20 stl
One point for each difference of 10 blk
One point for each difference of 40 to
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Rather exhausting comparison, but I wanted to see just how Dirk's projected path was coming along when considering other players at this point in his career. They have T-Mac as Dirk's closest statistical match.
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07-18-2006, 05:40 PM
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So you're saying you'd rather have the players stomping all over him? You're constantly confusing me in this thread.
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Did you read my post? i said maybe it's good thing since we have many young players in the Mavericks, and i said brought "more" to the table then just yelling and getting through the player's head. Read my post again, i think overrall he did good last year, our defense really improved but i still think he could have done a better job in the finals, i didn't see many adjustments.
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07-18-2006, 06:49 PM
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I feel Dirk should make it to the HOF, not for a long time though, I mean... How many dominate 7' Germans who can shoot the 3 are in the NBA and made it big? Theres not many guys like from Germany and have one of the purest jumpers in the league.. Grant it, hes not a post up player, but he finds other ways to beat his big man defenders. When he rises for a jumper he releases his shot at about 8 feet.. thats hard to block... but if Dirk doesnt win a title, I dont see him making the HOF.. although I think he should anyways.
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07-18-2006, 06:55 PM
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I feel Dirk should make it to the HOF, not for a long time though, I mean... How many dominate 7' Germans who can shoot the 3 are in the NBA and made it big? Theres not many guys like from Germany and have one of the purest jumpers in the league.. Grant it, hes not a post up player, but he finds other ways to beat his big man defenders. When he rises for a jumper he releases his shot at about 8 feet.. thats hard to block... but if Dirk doesnt win a title, I dont see him making the HOF.. although I think he should anyways.
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If he wins a championship i think he will make the HOF.
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01-07-2007, 05:39 PM
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I'm still undecided after all these months, but Pop-a-***** seems to think so:
Popovich thinks Nowitzki is bound for Hall of Fame
Web Posted: 01/06/2007 12:33 AM CST
Johnny Ludden
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Spurs coach Gregg Popovich didn't need to see Friday's performance by Dirk Nowitzki to offer an opinion on where the Dallas' forward will end his career.
"He's definitely a Hall of Famer," Popovich said before the game. "He's definitely going to be one of the greatest forwards ever to play the position because he has not only established himself as one of the best players in the league, but he's improved.
"He couldn't get a rebound when he first came in the league. In some ways, he couldn't even get a shot off. Then you think about where he is now, where nobody can guard the guy.
"And not only does he rebound, but he knows where the most important rebounds are. In Games 3 and 4 (of last season's Western Conference semifinals series) at their place, we've got the game in hand, and he goes and gets offensive rebounds in both games. That turned the fortunes of both of those games around."
Nowitzki did nothing to diminish his credentials Friday, scoring 36 points while making 14 of 23 shots. He scored 31 when the Mavericks beat the Spurs on Nov. 24.
"He's a big-time, big-play player on top of being who he is in the first place," Popovich said. "He makes Manu Ginobili-type plays at the end of games. For a seven-footer to do that, that's pretty special."
My bad: The Spurs weren't the only ones who missed Jason Terry's critical rebound late in the fourth quarter.
So did their stat crew.
Terry's rebound and basket of Nowitzki's 3-pointer with 1:44 left were both mistakenly credited to Josh Howard in the official box score. The error also was reflected in the final stats.
After the oversight was noted, Terry had 10 points (5-of-11 shooting) and seven rebounds, including four offensive. Howard had 16 points (6-of-16 shooting) and 11 rebounds, two offensive.
Sigh: Dallas owner Mark Cuban wore a blue T-shirt he had printed for Friday's game: "I went to the San Antonio River Walk and all I got was a rash."
Cuban called the River Walk an "ugly-***, muddy-watered thing" during last season's playoffs. The city announced plans to clean up the San Antonio River shortly afterward.
Offensive performance: Ripped by their coach in recent days for their inconsistent play at the defensive end, the Spurs corrected that problem Friday.
But as good as they were defensively, the Spurs were worse on offense in the critical fourth quarter. A scoring drought that lasted nearly five minutes cost them an opportunity to expand on a lead at a time their defense was producing stops at the other end of the court.
"Sometimes it's going to happen," said Ginobili, who had three-point plays — one the old-fashioned way and one with a shot from beyond the 3-point arc — on both ends of the lapse that lasted from 8:37 of the fourth period to 3:38. "Thing is, we have to keep them away from scoring during that five minutes, and they didn't score that much then, either."
Briefly: Bruce Bowen ended his 0-for-leather streak. After going 0 for 12 in two games since the NBA switched from the microfiber ball to leather, Bowen missed two more shots Friday before making a runner late in the second quarter. ... One fan held up this sign: "Matt Bonner stole my girlfriend and I'm totally cool with it."
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01-07-2007, 09:17 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
He's a borderline hall of fame player right now. I think he will win MVP this year and when he does he will be a lock. A shiny championship trophy would guarantee him a place at Springfield.
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01-07-2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
If he was an average player, he'd have a shot just on the strength of his breaking international barriers. But him being one of the best of his generation also? Shoo-in.
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01-08-2007, 08:38 AM
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Lebron will be retired in 18 years. He wont even play that long because he will have so many MVP and championships along with Wade.
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Lebron better find him a decent sidekick before he even thinks about dominating anything. Last I checked, the NBA wasn't 1 on 1.
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