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07-17-2006, 11:12 AM
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Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
It's something I've been thinking about lately, and...well, he's our franchise player, the best player the city of Dallas has ever seen. One of the Top 5 players in this league undoubtedly...but 8 years into his career, I just don't feel like Dirk will ever be named to the Hall of Fame, while 3 years after the 2003 draft I'm 95% sure that LeBron and Dwyane are both locks for the HOF. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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07-17-2006, 11:16 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
Well, the King was really hyped up to be one of the best rookies when he entered, and he has proven it over the past few years. Dwayne has won a championship, and has also acquired Finals MVP status. Dirk was not all hyped up when he entered the league, but now, he is emerging as one of the best players in the league. The next few years will tell us if he is HOF material.
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07-17-2006, 11:25 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
I suppose...he just turned 28, which is supposed to be the beginning of a player's prime...
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"You can't do nothing to D-Wade," Rasheed Wallace said. "If you say 'boogety-boogety booh' to him, that's a foul."
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07-17-2006, 11:26 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
This topic has been raised before, and my answer was yes.
HOF inducties must be a contributer of the league's legacy that he/she was a part of. Despite Dirk's numbers - whatever they may be when he retires - this is the standard that puts him above other players with similar careers/numbers.
1) Changed the position. The 4 spot has forever been refined from a power player who d's it up and rebounds, to a player who can (and did) win the 3pt competition as well as rebound and display an inside game, to a player who score from anywhere on the floor. Player development globally will forever be effected.
2) Changed the game. Matchup nightmare according to coaches around the league. How it redefines the concept of coaching is still being effected.
3) A good guy who has won a championship*
* Give him time. 
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07-17-2006, 11:42 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
LeBron is 99% on his way, D-Wade has won a title and WILL go to the HOF, if Dirk can win a title, or multiple mvps (which is unlikely since LeBron will take over the next 18 some years), he will go to the HOF.
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07-17-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
I guess Bray brings up some good points. Plus he was the first international player to be elevated to such high status in the NBA.
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"You can't do nothing to D-Wade," Rasheed Wallace said. "If you say 'boogety-boogety booh' to him, that's a foul."
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07-17-2006, 11:52 AM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
I think Dirk will end up in the HOF. His skill set is so broad and people are beginning to see more of him. He is also still improving. His buddy Nash is already a lock to get into the HOF just because he won 2 MVP awards.
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07-17-2006, 12:42 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
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Originally Posted by Pain5155
LeBron is 99% on his way, D-Wade has won a title and WILL go to the HOF, if Dirk can win a title, or multiple mvps (which is unlikely since LeBron will take over the next 18 some years), he will go to the HOF.
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Your saying it's unlikely that Dirk will win an MVP? Please man, Dirk is still going through his prime and yes King is just amazing but he is not amazing enough to win 18 in a row, by your logic
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07-17-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
If he plays at this level for just a couple more seasons, I'd think it would be hard to keep him out.
An MVP or a championship is a free ticket for him.
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07-17-2006, 12:52 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
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Your saying it's unlikely that Dirk will win an MVP? Please man, Dirk is still going through his prime and yes King is just amazing but he is not amazing enough to win 18 in a row, by your logic
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Lebron will be retired in 18 years. He wont even play that long because he will have so many MVP and championships along with Wade.
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07-17-2006, 12:57 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
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Lebron will be retired in 18 years. He wont even play that long because he will have so many MVP and championships along with Wade.
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But did you read that guys logic?
He is saying LeBron will dominate for 18 years meaning NO CHANCE for Dirk to win MVP/Championship, that would either mean Bron getting 18 MVP's or 18 rings which both are completely impossible
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07-17-2006, 01:19 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
Dirk doesnt even have to win a Ship to get into the HOF. He is playing at a high level and still improving. Look at guys like Ewing, Miller, Malone, Stockton and Barkely. I'm sure they may get into the HOF. Look at Iverson, he still can keep trying to get a Ship but he will be a HOFer if he doesnt get one
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07-17-2006, 01:19 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
I don't know why anyone takes Pain seriously.
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"You can't do nothing to D-Wade," Rasheed Wallace said. "If you say 'boogety-boogety booh' to him, that's a foul."
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07-17-2006, 01:20 PM
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Re: Will Dirk Nowitzki Make the HOF?
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Lebron will be retired in 18 years. He wont even play that long because he will have so many MVP and championships along with Wade.
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Not to mention $$$.
OT, but that's a big time theory of mine. All time numbers are increasingly safe because a player can build a huge nest egg in a shorter period of time. 
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