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Old 07-28-2006, 10:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

His shot reminds me of dirk/peja.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:47 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

At this point, Bargnani appears to be almost purely a spot-up shooter. Hard to say how he'll perform against NBA level competition.

In comparison to Dirk, Bargnani has longer arms and bigger hands as you don't see Dirk palming the ball and dunking one handed like that. No doubt Bargnani is/will be a better shot-blocker. On the other hand, he seems to have clearly slower feet than. Dirk might have a little softer touch closer to the basket (I didn't see Bargnani making any layups/short range jumpers). Neither of them is a true NBA leaper.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:58 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

I agree with the Peja comparisons.
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Old 07-29-2006, 01:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Various points about Bargnani:

- He is bigger than Dirk RIGHT NOW (250 lbs)...

- He has a better 1st step and generally is more fluid when runs the court. Overall speed is better.

- He has a little bit better athleticism... so better shot blocker and dunker.

- His shot release is faster than Dirk though not so efficient.

- He passes the ball better than Dirk.

- His ball-handling skills are comparable (if not better) to the rookie Dirk.

- He has mid-range game but it didn't show much.

- I never saw a cross-over like that by Dirk!
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

He looks a helluva lot slower and looks more like he's gonna lose the ball every time he dribbles.

As seen in these to videos
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UBOiz0t-t...owitzki%20ball
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-k-AXCgz...owitzki%20ball

He does look like he has the ball handling of a guard.

And in this video of Bargnani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHHJb4Tf6gM&NR

He looks like he is about to lose control of the ball.

To me Andrea is a Peja with better shot blocking skills, I dont even think he should even be mentioned in the same breath as Dirk until you see him even PLAY in the real league, not the SL.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Unless Andrea hits the weights this offseason he's in for a rude awakening come tipoff. He's so scrawny that despite having the height/weight to be a center he's going to be playing SF next season...
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Big match up problems when playing Andrea, though the thing is that he is too slow to play SF and to scrawny to play PF/C. Plus the defense in Italy/summer league isnt even half as good as the defense in the NBA.
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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Big match up problems when playing Andrea, though the thing is that he is too slow to play SF and to scrawny to play PF/C. Plus the defense in Italy/summer league isnt even half as good as the defense in the NBA.
"too scrawny to play PF"

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I know its hard to admit someone has a better skill then your beloved German, but Bargnani definitely has better foot speed and find me a clip that shows Dirk crossing over anyone.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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"too scrawny to play PF"

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I know its hard to admit someone has a better skill then your beloved German, but Bargnani definitely has better foot speed and find me a clip that shows Dirk crossing over anyone.
Bud your taking this a little overboard, you asked for our opinions and we gave them to you.

I dont need a video of Dirk crossing some one up to prove anything, Dirk handles the ball better, is a helluva lot faster than him, and has a better midrange game. We're not "dissing" Andrea one bit, all we are saying is that you dont need to "cross someone up" to show that you have better ball handling skills than the next guy.

Yes he's to scrawny to play PF and by scrawny I mean not strong enough, not size wise.
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Old 07-29-2006, 03:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Also to show you Dirks ball handling skill just watch the first play in this movie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nhlAQ2T4H...%20nowitzki%20

1 minute into this movie Dirk brings the ball up the court, showing his ball handle skills
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SyzN53QrF...%20nowitzki%20

In this clip Dirk scores off the dribble showing his handles
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pVy2xcZoG...%20nowitzki%20

2nd clip Dirk takes on 2 defenders off the dribble pump fakes and scores
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_A7l3Set...%20nowitzki%20

Off the dribble Dirk posterizes AK-47
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTyFrSAYG...%20nowitzki%20

Just liked this dunk lol Dirk over Barkley and after the game Barkley told Dirk he would give him any amount of money to play for Auburn
http://youtube.com/watch?v=upnEFHQlD...%20nowitzki%20

Dirk owns Walker
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8eQnwqcb2...%20nowitzki%20

Off the dribble the most famous Maverick play ever Dirk off the dribble attacks the Spurs and gets the And1 and ultimately the game
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1OmE3B-s8...%20nowitzki%20



You want me to continue or should I save you the embaressment?
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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Bud your taking this a little overboard, you asked for our opinions and we gave them to you.

I dont need a video of Dirk crossing some one up to prove anything, Dirk handles the ball better, is a helluva lot faster than him, and has a better midrange game. We're not "dissing" Andrea one bit, all we are saying is that you dont need to "cross someone up" to show that you have better ball handling skills than the next guy.

Yes he's to scrawny to play PF and by scrawny I mean not strong enough, not size wise.
Dirk does not have " better handles" then Bargnani, Dirk has no left hand to speak of
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Are you joking with me? Dirk goes to the left all the time, infact he takes alot of left handed layups during games. He can use both his hands to attack.

I dont know where your pulling out these sayings that "Dirk has no left hand to speak of" "Dirk does not have better handles than Bargnani" when I have clearly shown you that he is better at handling the ball and has the left hand, watch the 53 point game I highlighted he tipped the ball in and took a few layups with his left.
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Dirk absolutly sucked his 1st 2 seasons...absolutly was the most horrible player Id ever seen...
Dude, he was SECOND IN MOST IMPROVED PLAYER VOTING IN HIS SECOND SEASON! He averaged 18 points that season...
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

You asked for our opinions. That's what we're giving you. No need to get argumentative. And I really don't understand how you think that Bargnani's big enough to match up against say Duncan.
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