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Old 07-28-2006, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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do you see Dirk in this guys game?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u15IORiDlz8

similar skill sets?
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Old 07-28-2006, 06:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Hmm, not really... Andrea reminds me more of a Peja with a better D.
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

This guy is gonna be the Dirk of the East.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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Hmm, not really... Andrea reminds me more of a Peja with a better D.
Too bad one guy is 6'9-6'10 and the other is 7'1
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

I'd say a little bit. But it gets annoying how every Euro is the next Dirk.

I see some similarities but it's hard remember what Dirk was like when he first came into the league. They are both comparable shooters but Dirk's bread and butter is making use of mismatches by driving on slower bigger guys or shooting on smaller guys. He's a much better dribble --> then shot kind of player.

Andrea Bargnani is nice, but at the moment he seems like more of a spot-up shooter. One asset I really like of Bargnani's game though, is his shot blocking. If he can translate that to the NBA, he could very well be a superstar.
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Too bad one guy is 6'9-6'10 and the other is 7'1
Wasn't comparing heights just styles
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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I'd say a little bit. But it gets annoying how every Euro is the next Dirk.

I see some similarities but it's hard remember what Dirk was like when he first came into the league. They are both comparable shooters but Dirk's bread and butter is making use of mismatches by driving on slower bigger guys or shooting on smaller guys. He's a much better dribble --> then shot kind of player.

Andrea Bargnani is nice, but at the moment he seems like more of a spot-up shooter. One asset I really like of Bargnani's game though, is his shot blocking. If he can translate that to the NBA, he could very well be a superstar.
Dirk absolutly sucked his 1st 2 seasons...absolutly was the most horrible player Id ever seen...
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He is looking Damn good from that highlight tape
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

I rewatched the video and noticed a couple of things.

He will definately have a hard time when he is getting defended by NBA Players because they'll play closer defense on him. He didn't seem to have the best dribbling but it got him through in the Summer League.

Like Dirk, I didn't really notice his post defense but the shotblocking makes up for it at that age. He has a quick release on his shot and something I noticed is that he shot reminds me of Dirk aswell. The elbow a bit to the side and the feet spread out.

Both are decent dunkers, but Il Mago seems to try and throw it down with more intensity.

But this is all a very small sample size, come back midway through the season.
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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I'd say a little bit. But it gets annoying how every Euro is the next Dirk.

I see some similarities but it's hard remember what Dirk was like when he first came into the league. They are both comparable shooters but Dirk's bread and butter is making use of mismatches by driving on slower bigger guys or shooting on smaller guys. He's a much better dribble --> then shot kind of player.

Andrea Bargnani is nice, but at the moment he seems like more of a spot-up shooter. One asset I really like of Bargnani's game though, is his shot blocking. If he can translate that to the NBA, he could very well be a superstar.
How is he just a spot up shooter, when in the highlight reel he was taking many guys off the dribble and showing off his ballhandling skills?
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Looking more into the video I found a few things interesting

He shoots like Dirk, the whole elbow and knees thing

He doesnt seem to have much control when he is handling the ball.

He doesnt seem to have the same mid-range game as Dirk does.

He seems almost identical to Dirk when Dirk was a rookie.

I dont think he'll be a new Dirk but he'll be a good player none the less
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

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Looking more into the video I found a few things interesting

He shoots like Dirk, the whole elbow and knees thing

He doesnt seem to have much control when he is handling the ball.

He doesnt seem to have the same mid-range game as Dirk does.

He seems almost identical to Dirk when Dirk was a rookie.

I dont think he'll be a new Dirk but he'll be a good player none the less
"he doesnt seem to have much control when he is dribbling" WTF?

Go watch again and look for the play he makes at the 1:10 mark
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Your asking for OUR opinions, I am giving you MY opinion

He has some flashes of having control but then looks kinda sloppy
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Re: do you see Dirk in this guys game?

Dude Ball hog you asked for opinions and you got it. Don't get mad if we don't think he's like Dirk.

I've said this before and say it again. He's a Peja but can block. Seems to be a spot-up shooter since most of his points seem to be wide open. Any 3pt shooter can make the shots if he was wide open. His trainer tried hard to mold him into Dirk but he lacks Dirk's mid-game.
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