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**xray** · 10-26-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by _Dre_

The initial Kobe hate IMO was in the same vein as Bird and Jordan. People hated them because they were just so damn good...it wasn't until recently that Kobe seemingly started taunting the haters by pumping etc. on court. He never did that during their finals run. I think the hate on Kobe grew to new levels when the Shaq feud escalated, as well as the Colorado thing.

It seems to be that way, in hindsight.

Hopefully, his career high point wasn't the run with Shaq...if he could lead another band of brothers (at least) deep into the playoffs, perhaps that showing could dust off his reputation; too much has been focused on his off-court persona, and it's probably tainted the public's overall view of him.

imo

**StackAttack** · 10-26-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bray1967

I just wanted to take this opportunity to rip Kobe in public.

When he put 81 on the Raptors - a classic - he embarrased himself by taking a bow, pounding his chest in front of the crowd.

While that's no big deal to most (sad, because the sportsman is nearly extinct), I remember how Jordan would simply bow his head as he left the court after 3 quarters of awesome play. Gervin, Aguirre, Dantley, Bird, Olajuwon... none acted as immature as this kid. Hell, Lebron - given that he hasn't erupted like the aforementioned Bryant - at 21 and 7 years younger, would act like he's great.

Not like someone pretending to be great. Kobe, grow up.

...Bray, I don't know what your point is exactly. I'd be pretty ecstatic too if I just put up 81 points. Was it wrong for Dirk to throw his arms into the air after defeating San Antonio?

Saint Baller · 10-26-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

...Bray, I don't know what your point is exactly. I'd be pretty ecstatic too if I just put up 81 points. Was it wrong for Dirk to throw his arms into the air after defeating San Antonio?

By Bray's logic, yes. Yes it was.

**xray** · 10-27-2006, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

...Bray, I don't know what your point is exactly. I'd be pretty ecstatic too if I just put up 81 points. Was it wrong for Dirk to throw his arms into the air after defeating San Antonio?

There's a big difference between athletes - whether it be on the field, track, ice, etc. - celebrating victory over an opponent(s), and the individual stepping away from his teammates to shine the spotlight on himself.

Now, if this had been just about anyone else in the league it would've been excused as exuberance; this however, was the one who had elevated himself as greater than those around him since his rookie year.

I don't know the guy personally, so I can't say for sure; but there were guys on that '98 West team that wouldn't pass him the ball for this very reason.

**Dre™** · 10-27-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bray1967

There's a big difference between athletes - whether it be on the field, track, ice, etc. - celebrating victory over an opponent(s), and the individual stepping away from his teammates to shine the spotlight on himself.

Now, if this had been just about anyone else in the league it would've been excused as exuberance; this however, was the one who had elevated himself as greater than those around him since his rookie year.

I don't know the guy personally, so I can't say for sure; but there were guys on that '98 West team that wouldn't pass him the ball for this very reason.

You just admitted that you're only mad because it's Kobe.

People wouldn't pass him the ball then because he was a rookie.