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03-21-2008, 07:33 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
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I think thats more about this team over passing in a lot a situations...players need to start faking the swing to JKidd a lot more and creating it seems Kidd gets screwed into taking a lot of 3's and deep twos because the ball is swung to him with 2 seconds on the clock. this cannot happen more the 2-3 times per game. Kidd can punish you with limited shots. The over passing turns Kidd into a volume shooter and that is the wrong answer! Also, not that I personally care beyond the needs of the team, but I would guess that Kidd loses about 5-6 assist a night from people who cant finish or over pass...
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this is true too, ill admit that.
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03-21-2008, 07:37 AM
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03-23-2008, 10:25 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
the Sun is blue?!!! 
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03-23-2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
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Oooooooh.... imagine if Dallas pulled a MEM and gave up Dirk for Varejao so CLE can build a real contender.
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CAVS Fan here...That would be awesome!
AV, 13 Mil Expiring, 2 First, for DIRK?
GO CAVS
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03-27-2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
I think the failure has been as much his fault as the player's. You could write a book about what was first, the lack of mentally tough players you (as a fan) will put 100 percent trust into or the lack of smart coaching at the end of games. It seems like the team doesn't get Avery's message anymore, if they ever got it. The thing is I don't know if any other coach can get this team over the hump, maybe it is time to move no for everyone.
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03-27-2008, 01:57 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
This reminds me of Motta to MacLeod.
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The 1986-87 Mavericks team had their most successful regular-season to date, going 55–27 and winning their first Midwest Division title. But despite the great expectations surrounding the team, they self-destructed in the playoffs. After hammering the Seattle SuperSonics by 22 points in Game 1, the bottom dropped out for the Mavs, as they lost Games 2 and 3 in close fashion before succumbing in Game 4 in Seattle.
Following the unexpected early playoff exit, Motta, who had been with the team since its inception, shockingly resigned as head coach. John MacLeod, who had led the Phoenix Suns to nine playoff berths in 11 seasons including an NBA Finals run in 1976, was hired as his replacement.
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They reached the WCF the next year.
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03-27-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
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This reminds me of Motta to MacLeod.
They reached the WCF the next year.
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Great. Bring back MacLeod!
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03-29-2008, 05:10 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
So we agree - he's a good motivator (except for that little event in June '06), but he's not a good coach.
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03-29-2008, 07:18 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
I disagree, motivation is only one aspect of coaching, it's probably the most important, but make your team believe in themselves is just as important. It seems like he has failed at that.
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03-29-2008, 12:50 PM
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I can agree with that as well.
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03-29-2008, 01:05 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
I know how I would motivate the players...
But in all seriousness.. I don't think it's time to fire Avery. Avery didn't want Kidd in Dallas. He led them to the Finals and 67 wins, and yes, although nothing was amounted out of those seasons, it's like any other coach in Mavs history has done that, so I think keep him around for a little longer.
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03-29-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Fire Avery
My gut feeling is that I have less confidence in him as the coach than in most of our players and that's saying something 
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03-31-2008, 04:29 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
Jet (and others) - Don't you have to have a scapegoat if this team misses the playoffs? You're right, he has done what no other Mavs coach has before him, but that simply set the bar higher for himself and the team... 
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03-31-2008, 08:40 AM
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Re: Fire Avery
I have one scapegoat, and one ONLY:
AVERY JOHNSON
Remember how AJ played to GSW's game by going small last playoff? When critics finally cornered him this season in interviews, his excuse was Damp hurting.
How about last night? Damp registered a whopping 12 minutes and ZERO PF's. So we know he wasn't in foul trouble, and AJ simply refused to use him.
When you play to your opponent's game, the results will be.......
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03-31-2008, 08:50 AM
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