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04-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
damn.. and i can see why my dallas people are down on this team & i aint even a dallas fan
my boy howard played really good, but that was a really stupid tech he got, he needs to be a quiet intense, not a outspoken technical headband throwing intense.
mind you that's not why they lost the game, Lakers wanted it more then Dallas did.. Lamar Odom absolutely played dirk.. that defence dallas was showing was pretty terrible and always left one of gasol or odom open.. both guys a strong passers.
but from my POV, two strong reasons they lost tonight.. wtf are devean george & eddie jones playing 40combined minutes for!? .. putting up a great combined effort of like what? 4pts, 6 rebounds?... where was the kid bass tonight? he might give you better production then those vets (EJ & George).. who by the way i watched make some pretty damn big rookie mistakes tonight.
& yes yes, i understand matchups. bass can't stay with odom etc, but damn.. you can't find more then 12 seconds floor time for the beastly one?
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04-04-2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
And do we have any offensive plays?
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04-04-2008, 10:26 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
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my boy howard played really good, but that was a really stupid tech he got, he needs to be a quiet intense, not a outspoken technical headband throwing intense.
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He had one good fourth quarter a couple of games before but now he's back to sucking balls in the second half. But it's not like i expected him to play well in the second half.
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04-04-2008, 10:28 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
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mind you that's not why they lost the game, Lakers wanted it more then Dallas did.. Lamar Odom absolutely played dirk.. that defence dallas was showing was pretty terrible and always left one of gasol or odom open.. both guys a strong passers.
but from my POV, two strong reasons they lost tonight.. wtf are devean george & eddie jones playing 40combined minutes for!? .. putting up a great combined effort of like what? 4pts, 6 rebounds?... where was the kid bass tonight? he might give you better production then those vets (EJ & George).. who by the way i watched make some pretty damn big rookie mistakes tonight.
& yes yes, i understand matchups. bass can't stay with odom etc, but damn.. you can't find more then 12 seconds floor time for the beastly one?
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I don't think so and the rest is just bad coaching.
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04-04-2008, 11:04 PM
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i understand what your saying, but you can't coach taking it to the hoop, your players need to do that.
howard didn't play well in the 4th, but he just started taking the end of shot clock look, the offence stopped moving, dirk & terry were hoopin, and off broken plays howard resorted to the jumpers, which he hadn't been doing in that 1st half.
he played really well with his driving & offensive rebounding, following up misses at the rim in that 2nd Q.
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04-04-2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
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i understand what your saying, but you can't coach taking it to the hoop, your players need to do that.
howard didn't play well in the 4th, but he just started taking the end of shot clock look, the offence stopped moving, dirk & terry were hoopin, and off broken plays howard resorted to the jumpers, which he hadn't been doing in that 1st half, turned up the pressure with his driving & offensive rebounding, following up misses at the rim in that 2nd Q.
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No but you can coach a system with more ball movement and movement w/o the ball so it's easier for the players to attack the paint. It's hard to get easy baskets when the only offensive plays in the coach's book are isos.
"howard didn't play well in the 4th," He almost never does, i really liked him in his rookie when he use to attack the paint and play in the low post. But now he just love that jumpshot, though i have seen some improvement in the last few games. When J-Ho chooses to attack the paint and play in the low post, we are a dangerous team. But that's never going to happen because i think he's mentally weak (thanks Dirk), and just low IQ.
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04-04-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
fair enough assessment, you watch this team more then i do, so you'd be more critical & on point.
gotta admit tho, he is becoming better with kidd out there, his first half 14-15 were mostly in the paint, atleast to a really good ratio tonight, he got to the line the most on the team, which is what dallas needs him to do.
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04-05-2008, 04:06 AM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
LOL
This is already beyond ridiculous, put us in a close game and we are never going to win.
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04-05-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
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No but you can coach a system with more ball movement and movement w/o the ball so it's easier for the players to attack the paint. It's hard to get easy baskets when the only offensive plays in the coach's book are isos.
"howard didn't play well in the 4th," He almost never does, i really liked him in his rookie when he use to attack the paint and play in the low post. But now he just love that jumpshot, though i have seen some improvement in the last few games. When J-Ho chooses to attack the paint and play in the low post, we are a dangerous team. But that's never going to happen because i think he's mentally weak (thanks Dirk), and just low IQ.
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i really think its not his fault, i think hes told to change his play after halftime, doesnt make sense otherwise.first half we are going to the hoop, and 2nd we shoot outside jumper after outside jumper and guess what, as usual we lose when the other team attacks the hoop. ugh
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04-05-2008, 10:28 AM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
Didn't Avery also say that he likes as a defender more than a scorer in the second half and especially in the fourth quarter ? If that is the case I don't understand at all because he completely disappears often and it's not like he is shutting down anyone either.
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04-06-2008, 03:59 PM
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Re: GT: Dallas Mavericks @ Los Angeles Lakers
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Didn't Avery also say that he likes as a defender more than a scorer in the second half and especially in the fourth quarter ? If that is the case I don't understand at all because he completely disappears often and it's not like he is shutting down anyone either.
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Apparently you could stop at the "s" and follow up with "uck" too.
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