View Poll Results: Should we have traded Dirk last offseason?
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04-30-2008, 08:09 AM
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#16 (permalink)
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by DienerTime
He still has value, The Pacers would give you Jermaine O'Neal and Shawne Williams for him.
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04-30-2008, 08:20 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by croco
His defense on West wasn't terrible and you can't say he wasn't trying because he obviously was. Let's not forget that he still can't be a hundred percent with the high ankle sprain he suffered, it's impossible to make a full recovery while competing at the highest level. He also deserves some of the blame, but if you consider that he has had a PER of 26 in the playoffs there isn't really much more you can expect from him.
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Thats just it tho... I do expect more. This is where Amazing is supposed to happen right? True super stars find a way to make big things happen regardless of injuries, slumping teammates, questionable coaching etc. So with out this the other option is to try and be a well rounded team like the Spurs and Pistons. We're not the Spurs or Pistons as much as Avery has tried to gear us in that direction.
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In a perfect world he is probably better suited to be a second option because it is hard to create for a seven footer who doesn't like to post up. Having said all that I still think it is time for both to move on unless there is a deal that nods a superstar while keeping, that of course is totally unrealistic like I mentioned a few times before. It's probably in the best interest of both to make a decision because at the end of the day we still haven't won that championship and that is what it's all about.
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I agree.
Now for the outlandish trade portion of my post... This wouldn't give us that super star to save us from playoff early exits but would be a step in the right direct of building a Spurs/Pistons type team.
Dirk to Toronto for Bosh... at least Bosh can score with his back to the basket and blocks shots despite his inability to bulk up like most people say he needs to do (he's still young tho). Dirk could benefit from playing Euro ball in the leastern division with the other foreign kids up there. Just a thought...
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04-30-2008, 08:25 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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come on, thats the definition of hindsight. when he was here he stunk the place up on D and O. I remember he cut an interview a season ago where he said he worked hard before he joined the suns on improving his D.
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Your absolutely 100% correct but its the case of letting youth walk and over paying our old tired legs that has us in the boat we're in. He was actually showing promise in his last year with the Mavs. Nothing too amazing but it was enough to where some us around the boards at the time didn't like seeing him go.
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04-30-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by DienerTime
He still has value, The Pacers would give you Jermaine O'Neal and Shawne Williams for him.
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Don't know about Shawne Williams but I'd take O'Neal for sure. We'd actually have someone using the that colored box area near the basket... what's that called again? Been so long since a Mav used it I forgot what it's called... 
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04-30-2008, 08:43 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
The Mavs would flourish if they could add a power player and relegate Dirk to #2 status, where his scoring would probably increase to 26-30 ppg because of the defensive attention the other star would garnish. That's of course easier said than done - we've got pieces, but they're overvalued.
I think we can all agree that Dirk is still the most in-demand piece on the roster. If Cuban is willing to break up with his boyfriend, there could be some decent pieces added, imo.
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04-30-2008, 08:48 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
Sometimes I wonder if its a whole marketing ploy to keep the hicks in and around Dallas remotely interested in basketball by keeping Dirk around.
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04-30-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
Adding a monster that could rip down the backboard would have more people interested, imo.
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04-30-2008, 10:46 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by DienerTime
He still has value, The Pacers would give you Jermaine O'Neal and Shawne Williams for him.
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lol. That's not having value if the Mavs only get players of that nature in any deal.
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04-30-2008, 11:04 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by stevemc
Thats just it tho... I do expect more. This is where Amazing is supposed to happen right? True super stars find a way to make big things happen regardless of injuries, slumping teammates, questionable coaching etc. So with out this the other option is to try and be a well rounded team like the Spurs and Pistons. We're not the Spurs or Pistons as much as Avery has tried to gear us in that direction.
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if you'd posted this last year when dirk was terrible in the playoffs, you may have had a point. i don't understand how this season suddenly killed dirk's value. if anything did, it was his meltdown in the playoffs last year and him actually showing up this year in the playoffs and playing well should help it.
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04-30-2008, 11:19 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Here's the question... Would Harris been able to slow Chris Paul from his domination of the Mavs?
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To answer your question with another question:
Would Harris be able to slow BARON DAVIS from his domination of the Mavs?
Kidd sure slowed that over-sized guard....
What if Dallas ended up play UTA and did not make the Kidd trade, would you be wondering if Dallas should have made the trade to secure that big guard (Kidd) to slow down Deron?
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04-30-2008, 11:23 AM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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Originally Posted by rocketeer
if you'd posted this last year when dirk was terrible in the playoffs, you may have had a point. i don't understand how this season suddenly killed dirk's value. if anything did, it was his meltdown in the playoffs last year and him actually showing up this year in the playoffs and playing well should help it.
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It's the back to back melt downs and him being a hair under 30 years old now that leads me to believe his value is less than last years.
It's the 1st round curse KG faced in Minny.. but with a far more talented roster. It makes the star of a team look far less impressive if he can't put his team on his back and take you somewhere in the playoffs. Tmac gets the same treatment.. Prior to the label of unable to win in the playoffs was bestowed upon him he was seen as a much hotter commodity.
Anyone know the last meaningful game Dirk has taken over like someone with an MVP trophy should?
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04-30-2008, 12:45 PM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
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To answer your question with another question:
Would Harris be able to slow BARON DAVIS from his domination of the Mavs?
Kidd sure slowed that over-sized guard....
What if Dallas ended up play UTA and did not make the Kidd trade, would you be wondering if Dallas should have made the trade to secure that big guard (Kidd) to slow down Deron?
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but kidd is no longer a good defender and harris would be a better job than him defending any guard.
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04-30-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: Should of Traded Dirk When He Had Some Value!
I say we trade the Dirk, Kidd, & the FDLS mess in West Texas to Utah for Boozer and Deron. Might need to ad a filler on Utah's side but the FDLS Mormons can't be making much a year...
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