cpawfan

Quality Front Court Depth is more important to beating the Spurs in a 7 game series than the SG position. Not that perimeter defense isn't important, just that Duncan will get your team's bigs in foul trouble and you need have quality replacements to keep the game competative.

For the SG position, I'm concerned about the defense, than the offense, which is why I'm high on Hodge. Hodge can pass and he can defend. Any scoring from the 5th position in the lineup is gravy.

The Nuggets are built such that the SG is least important player on the floor. Most teams have a weakness like that in their lineup. The Spurs have it at the center position and sometimes the PG position when Parker goes into a funk. When the Lakers won championships with Shaq & Kobe, they had weaknesses at 3 positions.

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Timmons

Excellent POST!
Nugs should be okay if they can find a guy to log minutes at the 2 where they can defend and score.

Next season point breakdown:

Miller 12 ppg
SG 10-12 ppg (Lenard & Hodge)
Melo 24ppg
KMart 18ppg
Camby 10ppg
That would give us 74-76 points from our starters.

Bench:
Boykins 12ppg
SG 6ppg (Buckner)
SF 6-8ppg (Najera & Klieza)
Nene 14ppg
Elson 2ppg
Bench output around 41 ppg

Now if Denver got that output they'd average around 115 ppg. Which is probably not going to happen, but should under Karl's running system and player's improvements.

Denver gets to 100 they win. The defense is tough enough with that cast to hold em to double figures.

Looks like there may be no room for DJ
I'm still going DJ over Buck.

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23AJ

Okay I have a question to the people that think we don't need to find a top tier shooting guard....

To me last season in the playoffs it seemed like the Spurs really packed it down low when Denver was running their offense. Obviously with a great player like Duncan down low it's going to be rough on most.

Although if my memory serves me correctly didnt it seem like are troubles shooting the ball from outside hinder our inside game ? Because thats the way it seemed to me.

If we don't make any changes that improve our outside shooting game what makes us any better than last season besides our head coach because thats who I personally attribute the Nuggets turn around to.

cpawfan

Focusing only on the Spurs, I'm more concerned about being able to stop Manu and Parker than I am about the offense. The difference in the series was that the Spurs were able to get stops and the Nuggets weren't. I'm less concerned about the offense because I know that 1) Melo wasn't getting the ball enough 2) Kenyon and Nene weren't healthy nor as effective as they should be this season and 3) the offense should be run better this season.

When I look at the Nuggets Playoff Stats the thing that jumps out at me is the shots per game for Dre and Earl. That is just asking for trouble.

Yes, it would be nice to have better outside shooting, but I firmly believe that the internal improvements and growth in the team along with beter perimeter defense are more important. However, the Nuggets are never going to win a playoff series with Earl playing 30 MPG and taking 13.6 SPG.

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Timmons

Like Cpawfan said Dre and Earl cannot dominate the shots anymore. If the Nuggets trade away Nene or KMart then who can we divide down low against the likes of S.A.?

I don't think that there are any viable options for Denver this offseason at the 2 position, atleast w/o giving up a key to our team. If Denver added say Ray Allen or Paul Pierce then sure they'd be able to score more, but our interior would have some pretty big holes. I don't think that Nene is ready to take over down low by himself, he's not as good offensively or defensively as Kmart right now. Duncan would run wild down low w/o our Big 3.

I think Denver will be more of a challenge with our current bigs intact. Voshon will make a pretty big difference and I believe that Hodge will too. Offense/Defense combo.

S.A. did load up the lane against Melo & Co. and Carmelo does need another viable offensive partner to share the load. But he also needs to get a chance to run the show and take over.

Thinning the frontline is not the way to concrete the SG spot. I still think this team needs to add somebody, but not at the price of Nene or KMart.

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nbanoitall

camby nene kmart, elson, najera, rookie, and possible free agent signing

hmmm, i think were good guys.

however complaining about how our backcourt is ****ing up. and then looking at our front court which is great, and saying we need to worry about it more? um no.

if we focus on defeating any team. its the spurs, because thats the team we must go through. however we shouldnt do something stupid like trade for an old man like fisher or cassell.

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cpawfan

We're not saying that we need to worry about the Nuggets front court, rather don't do anything that would tear apart the most important componet of that depth, the top 3 guys. Essentially, don't tear appart the quality front depth to improve a part of the team that isn't as important to the overall success.

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cpawfan

Nice use of those new mod powers. Good call on the split.

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23AJ

Please keep in mind the only game we won in the playoffs is when Andre Miller had an outstanding shooting night from outside.

I believe that this is key to our run in the playoffs. Also it seems the Nuggets won't be making any major roster changes this off season, so I guess we will see if cpawfan and tobin are on the right track.

cpawfan

11 for 24 isn't an outstanding shooting night (although I guess for Dre it is). Dre had a great game that night and completely abused Tony Parker. On a night like that it is fine for Dre to take so many shots, but in general, Dre shouldn't have 10 more shots than Melo.

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23AJ

Well to your point about Carmelo taking more shots.I recall Carmelo had the ball a lot more in game 2 and he couldnt really do anything, those are times we need another player to help create. Game 3 Carmelo played better, but it was game 4 I think he really broke out with a nice game.

Andre had an outstanding first half of shooting, which by the way he truly turned the tide when going in to half time with his half court shot. Carmelo really struggled in a lot of those games as I recall. It took him a while to adjust to the defense packed in to the lane.

I'm not sure how many times Carmelo got blocked by either Duncan or Nazr Mohammed, but i counted at least 3 times in game one. If Carmelo doesn't have his A-game going other guys need to step up. Thats why I think a big problem we have is outside of Carmelo we really don't have a top tier wing player to really help us when we get bogged down on offense.

Will Lenard, Hodge, or Buckner be the answer ? I'm not sold I suppose. I guess this will be a very interesting season to watch unfold. By the way if I'm way off base about our SG's and they play great all season and we get out of the first round this up coming season, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong.

FanOfAll8472

Definitely. This is why I believe most Nene for a SG trades are bad for the Nuggets.