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Old 12-29-2005, 09:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

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Murray For Watson?
29th December, 2005 - 7:06 am
The News Tribune - The SuperSonics and Denver Nuggets are discussing a trade that would send Ronald “Flip” Murray to Denver and bring former Sonics guard Earl Watson to Seattle, sources said Wednesday.

It is unclear if a trade will be consummated because the Nuggets (14-15) are talking with other teams in an attempt to upgrade a roster that many – including coach George Karl – predicted would win the Northwest Division.

Sonics general manager Rick Sund could not be reached for comment.

The Sonics would have to include several other players to complete a deal because Murray earns $895,000. Under terms of the collective bargaining agreement, the salaries of players traded must be within 15 percent of each another. Watson, who signed a five-year, $29 million deal this summer, earns $5 million this season.

If the Sonics put together an offer of Murray, Mikki Moore, Rick Brunson and Mateen Cleaves or Reggie Evans, they could get close to the total needed to complete a deal for Watson, who left the Sonics via free agency in 2002.


I think this coudl be a smart move for Denver. Flip could help score while Moore and Brunson could help down low. Cleaves or Brunson would probably be waived or traded right away.

I like this because it would cut salary, plus it would help us patch two holes. Granted, it wouldn't fill the holes the way Artest would, but it would allow us to hold onto Nene and see how his rehab goes, while still helping out for the short term. I dont' know about the long term, but it might not be a bad idea.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

While, we'd get ripped off. Flip sucks, straight up.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

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While, we'd get ripped off. Flip sucks, straight up.
If the Nuggets got Evans out of that deal, I'd help Watson pack his bags.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

That's the point. Flip would be a patch, not a fix, and he's a free agent at the end of the season. Evans would be a monster in the post right now for us, and Mikki Moore coudl be antoher big man who coudl help us out.

All that for Watson? It's a steal.
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Old 12-29-2005, 10:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

No to Brunson, and yes to Reggie Evans. He would be vital for the Nuggets.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

And if you got more than one player for Earl, who would you waive? Nuggets roster is full, and from the salary implications the Nuggets would have to bring in four players to meet Earl's salary. If this is part of a three-way deal it makes more sense, but if it's straight up it makes no sense at all.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

More realistically, the "other piece" would be Vitaly Potapenko. A 3-1 deal mean syou have to waive two, which wouldn't make sense. Vitaly is a capable center, if hardly refined. And Evans would have to approve any trade, being on a QO. As does Murray, but he probably will.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

What about Radmanovich? He's disgruntled...and he can hit the outside shot better than Camby can.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

Evans is a one dimensional rebounder, nothing more. Yeah, we need a big, and i'd like to have him, but let's not get carried away.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

man this is B.S., this is not the deal i was looking for. We get teased about Pierce, then Peja, then Artest and this one is probably the one that's going to happen. Two scrubs for Watson. I'm bummed.
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

Radmanovic has said he will veto any trade from Seattle.


Evans is no scrub. He might be "just a rebounder", but since he's the best one of those that the league has to offer.........
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

If I were the Nuggets I'd take Watson for Flip. You guys have 3 PG's and Watson is on a bigger contract and not really needed. Flip is expiring after this year and can be a good scorer off the bench. As long as you guys get a big outta this deal, with not a very long contract I think you guys make out good.

Also, why don't you guys give Klieza some minutes and see what he can do? Who knows maybe he can produce and you guys found something..
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

Kleiza was getting regular minutes until this past week or so. I don't know what Karl's doing by not playing him as much.

He's proven his worth as a banger and "poor man's Najera." I think he's found a spot on the Nuggets' bench for a few years at least.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Watson to Seattle for Flip and others?

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I guess that 21 PPG he was avg before he dislocated his fingers the other night proves he sucks. Straight UP!!
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