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Everyone is misunderstanding me. I certainly don't want Marbury as a PG as I don't like that type of pg. My original point is that Dre is closer to Marbury than a pass first pg.

The stats were presented to demonstrate the perceived differences in assists

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of course, nobody wants marbury. i guess i just look at PGs a certain way. For instance let me use politics to compare.

Marbury (aka shoot first point guard) is on one end of the spectrum while pass first point guard (lets say Jason Kidd) is on the other end of the spectrum. Kinda like being a communist or capitalist (of course Marbury would be the communist ). Now if I was to put Dre in that spectrum.... he'd be a socialist.

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Excellent post!

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lol! good to know i guess...

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Andre Miller would fit with the Cavs or Grizzlies IMO. I still think he is more of a pass first point guard then people give him credit for.

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Miller did average 8.2 assists last seaon which I believe was TOP 6 in the NBA...that has to qualify him for a "pass-first" guy that can score when needed.

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I think you can definitley pick out guys that have trouble with injuries. Like when Grant Hill played on that broken ankle in the '98 or '99 playoffs with Detroit, thus all the ankle problems with Orlando.

But to say Andre Miller is some kind of Ultimate Warrior because he doesn't miss games doesn't tell me much. I mean yeah Tinsley has injury problems and I don't want Denver to aquire him because that means Boykins would start like 40+ games until Denver re-signed Howard Eisley to run the point with Boink-Man. That would be horrific and a definite realistic outcome with Tin-Man on the roster.

But Miller is only as durable as a freak-injury will allow him to be. I mean has Marbury or Tinsley faked these injuries to stay on the bench? NO!

If Miller makes one of his drives to the hoop and comes down awkwardly and breaks a collar bone, leg, whatever then you can start a Thread titled: Miller is injury prone! He's actually just lucky not to have injured himself yet.

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Yeah Miller would definitely be a younger and better Eric Snow with the Cavs.

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That was why I brought up Marbury. Marbury has had better APG seasons than 8.2 and he is far from pass first

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well this has turned into an interesting conversation. Nbanoitalls statistical method to determine if a PG is communist, socialist or free market capitalist.

Comparison. Marbury(2004-2005 for his sake), Andre Miller (05-06), Nash (05-06), Brevin Knight (05-06)

The best way to do is is to divide shot attempts per assist.

Marbury scored 21.7 PPG had 8.1 (668 total assists) assists and shot 1308 times

Miller scored 13.7 PPG and had 8.2 (673 total assists) assists and shot 872 times

Nash scored 18.8 PPG and had 10.5 assists (826 total assists)and shot 1056 times

Knight scored 12.6 PPG and had 8.8 assists (610 total assists) and shot 772 times

Marbury 1308/668= 1.95
Miller 872/673= 1.30
Nash 1056/826= 1.28
Knight 772/610= 1.27


interestingly enough Boris Diaw scores a 1.02

so id say a 1.0 scale ranks as pass first and as the number rises you become more shoot first.... 1.95 is completely on the opposite end of the spectrum... for instance billups scores a 1.45.

i really like this..... so patent pending.... im going to be rich *****!

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This is some ESPN.com stuff...I LOVE IT!!

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