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The more and more Karl opens his mouth, the more I get sick of him. He's such a con artist, constantly twisting the story to make himself seem like the victim. His ego is big as hell, and it's about time people starting admitting it. All this, not to mention his despicable personell management, in-game adjustments, and rotations.

I'm starting to wonder if we can win with him here.
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The more and more Karl opens his mouth, the more I get sick of him. He's such a con artist, constantly twisting the story to make himself seem like the victim. His ego is big as hell, and it's about time people starting admitting it. All this, not to mention his despicable personell management, in-game adjustments, and rotations.

I'm starting to wonder if we can win with him here.
All of this could be said about most NBA head coaches in one fashion or another. The difference is not all of the NBA coaches can win. George Karl certainly has proven he is capable of being a winning head coach. Let's give the man some time to work his magic for the Nuggets.
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All of this could be said about most NBA head coaches in one fashion or another. The difference is not all of the NBA coaches can win. George Karl certainly has proven he is capable of being a winning head coach. Let's give the man some time to work his magic for the Nuggets.
I'm less concerned about his coaching than I am about his GMing
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i think all the off season moves have been GREAT!

so why are we still crying cpaw?
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i think all the off season moves have been GREAT!

so why are we still crying cpaw?
Yes, crying, that's what I'm doing. I have tears streaming down my face as I type this.

The JR Smith trade was great, even if he doesn't turn it around and on paper trading a player Karl wasn't going to use for a player he might use works. However, there is still more work to be done to the roster as the Nuggets would be starting the season with JR & YD at the SG right now.

These are my concerns
1) Karl wasn't a good GM or what ever his title was in Milwaukee and that worries me about the Nuggets since he is de facto in charge.

2) Who else besides Kenyon and Ruben is on Karl's chemestry hit list
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Yes, crying, that's what I'm doing. I have tears streaming down my face as I type this.

The JR Smith trade was great, even if he doesn't turn it around and on paper trading a player Karl wasn't going to use for a player he might use works. However, there is still more work to be done to the roster as the Nuggets would be starting the season with JR & YD at the SG right now.

These are my concerns
1) Karl wasn't a good GM or what ever his title was in Milwaukee and that worries me about the Nuggets since he is de facto in charge.

2) Who else besides Kenyon and Ruben is on Karl's chemestry hit list
i agree there still needs to be more work done at the SG spot. JR is gonna be a good starter for us i have no doubt, but thats all more o project in the works. we still need a vet SG to start in front of JR. but whats with the negativety? there WILL be another deal for a sg. dont act like the nuggets are done...

and karl is not the gm lol! i dont know why u are making this crap up. warkentien and bearup have been running the show. with some help from karl? sure! why is that a bad thing? a lot of people (me included) have been highly critical of this front office over the summer, but from the shape of things, the clear goal is to make the nuggets better and that is EXACTLY what they are doing! u cant be upset about that (unless u are a cincy bearcats fan). ohhhh, now it makes sense why ur so upset, lol...

do u guys really see all these moves being made if kiki was still here? i dont.
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No, Thomas and his guys weren't the only ones in the wrong Saturday. The Nuggets have their own issues. But when it was over, at least they weren't crying, at least they weren't punking.

It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.
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All of this could be said about most NBA head coaches in one fashion or another. The difference is not all of the NBA coaches can win. George Karl certainly has proven he is capable of being a winning head coach. Let's give the man some time to work his magic for the Nuggets.
He has had the talent to win. He is a good coach, but let's not overstate it. The Sonics could've won a championship, and the Nuggets were in shambles last season. I just hate his demeanor. You can tell he'll lie to someone straight up in their face and think nothing of it.
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do u guys really see all these moves being made if kiki was still here? i dont.
i dont miss kiki either
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He has had the talent to win. He is a good coach, but let's not overstate it. The Sonics could've won a championship, and the Nuggets were in shambles last season. I just hate his demeanor. You can tell he'll lie to someone straight up in their face and think nothing of it.
I don't know the man. To call someone a liar with out first hand knowledge of the situation is unfair in my opinion. Why have preconceived notions about people we don't even know.

However the idea that talent wins is true to a degree. You still need a good coach to make sure the talent works together, and reaches their potential. There have been plenty of coaches who failed at doing this. Karl IMO only had one real melt down while coaching a talented team in his career, otherwise he's done an excellent job. He did get a very talented group of players to the finals by the way. However they lost to the GOAT MJ. Nobody beat MJ in the finals nobody.

As I was saying, just give Karl sometime. I believe this season is going to be special for the Nuggets.
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i dont miss kiki either
Kiki did some good things here. IMO he served the Nuggets well, but it was time for him to go. Hopefully we continue to make good solid deals to help the Nuggets this season, and into the future.
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PF: Kenyon Martin...Nene...Joe Smith
C: Marcus Camby...Jamal Sampson

IMO, Martin will surely be gone by the start of the season. The Nuggets didn't sign Nene for $60 million to come off of the bench, and with Joe Smith (and possibly Reggie Evans) behind him, they have enough depth at PF to lose him. However, unless they get a player like Bonzi Wells, or ship Martin away for more than he's worth, I don't see how this team will make the playoffs next season.
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PG: Andre Miller...Earl Boykins
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SF: Carmelo Anthony...Eduardo Najera...Linas Kleiza
PF: Kenyon Martin...Nene...Joe Smith
C: Marcus Camby...Jamal Sampson

IMO, Martin will surely be gone by the start of the season. The Nuggets didn't sign Nene for $60 million to come off of the bench, and with Joe Smith (and possibly Reggie Evans) behind him, they have enough depth at PF to lose him. However, unless they get a player like Bonzi Wells, or ship Martin away for more than he's worth, I don't see how this team will make the playoffs next season.
i hope you are right about Martin... its nice to finally see posters and fans realizing how much Melo has to do in order for this team to be in the playoffs.

However your comment about not making the playoffs is wrong. The team got better over the summer. Kenyon and Nene should be healthy and ready to go next season. Plus we move disgruntled Ruben Patterson for Joe Smith. And JR Smith is added. Plus Dermarr johnson will be back likely at the vet min as well.

Plus in the playoffs boykins was just coming off injury as well. The one thing I know JR Smith can do is hit outside shots... and we need that.

Plus at some point this year Kmart will be dealt and that should bring in wings and hopefully a first round pick for 07 (i really would like to nab one in a trade).

This team is in better shape than last year.
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