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good point. i meant out of all the players available. surely kidd, nash, parker, billups would be a better fit, but they are not exactly available. besides AI, the only other PG who'd fit our system well and be an upgrade over dre is bibby IMO and hes not really available either...
It really is too bad that Detroit started winning games. It would have been great if Detroit feared losing Billups as a FA this summer by him opting out of his contract and sent him back home.

The Nets are having issues, so there is a very remote chance Kidd could be traded.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:25 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i think that we might get iverson, but just depends on how george karl is feeling at the time, i mean at the moment i think we can give up a couple of players and/or a draft pick for AI.
I will be soo happy if he comes to the nuggets.
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AI and Melo seems dangerous...if he goes to nuggets, it would be very hard to stop them when ur the defender
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Re: Allen Iverson?

nuggets and kings probably have the best pieces to trade for AI than any other team. i know sac is pushing hard as well...
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AI and Melo seems dangerous...if he goes to nuggets, it would be very hard to stop them when ur the defender
Melo needs good jumpshooters around him. Hows AI's outside jumper?
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Melo needs good jumpshooters around him. Hows AI's outside jumper?
a lot better than dre's...
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Re: Allen Iverson?

17 million dollars better?

Actually for the year AI is shooting 23 percent from the 3 pt line and Dre is doing 28%.

Regardless Dre at 58% from the field is way better than AIs 41%.

But all of that is secondary to AIs willingness to cut his shot attempts in half to compliment Carmelo Anthony.
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im more than confident AI would reduce his shots/game with JR outside and melo inside. the combo of those 3 players is flat out disgusting! korver got TONS of open looks from outside with AI. JR would get even more! sure there is really no doubt melo's scoring would be reduced slightly, but is that necessarily a bad thing? i dont know how much longer we can depend on melo going for 30+ a night. its already started taking a tole on him the last couple nights. as consistant as dre is, hes really INconsistant when it comes to his scoring. we all know AI is consistant. george karl is much like larry brown. he thinks he can get the best out of anybody. and we have seen with our own eyes both melo's and jr's improvements. karl can handle AI!

anyway if we do it ill be excited as ever. if we dont, i wont be all that upset either considering his age and salary. if we have to lose both dre AND camby, i dont want this trade at all though. so im anxious to see where he goes either way! just hope it aint minny...
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im more than confident AI would reduce his shots/game with JR outside and melo inside. the combo of those 3 players is flat out disgusting! korver got TONS of open looks from outside with AI. JR would get even more! sure there is really no doubt melo's scoring would be reduced slightly, but is that necessarily a bad thing? i dont know how much longer we can depend on melo going for 30+ a night. its already started taking a tole on him the last couple nights. as consistant as dre is, hes really INconsistant when it comes to his scoring. we all know AI is consistant. george karl is much like larry brown. he thinks he can get the best out of anybody. and we have seen with our own eyes both melo's and jr's improvements. karl can handle AI!

anyway if we do it ill be excited as ever. if we dont, i wont be all that upset either considering his age and salary. if we have to lose both dre AND camby, i dont want this trade at all though. so im anxious to see where he goes either way! just hope it aint minny...
at no point in his career has AI ever deferred to anyone. Now he would be doing just that to two players on this team. For AI to be a good fit on this team he is going to have to average 10 assists per game. And likely his scoring wont go down a little, it will go down a lot. Will AI be a 15 and 10 guy? If not, dont trade for him
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at no point in his career has AI ever deferred to anyone. Now he would be doing just that to two players on this team. For AI to be a good fit on this team he is going to have to average 10 assists per game. And likely his scoring wont go down a little, it will go down a lot. Will AI be a 15 and 10 guy? If not, dont trade for him
more like a 20/10 guy. hes never been in a system like ours or had remotely the same talent around him. 10 assists is nothing. and when he has (allstars/team usa) AI has proved he can share the ball...
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btw, indiana and denver are the top 2 teams in the AI sweepstakes...
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more like a 20/10 guy. hes never been in a system like ours or had remotely the same talent around him. 10 assists is nothing. and when he has (allstars/team usa) AI has proved he can share the ball...
im just not going into team usa talk right now. id just get to pissed.

if Denver is still in the talks, its because Philly is ok with not getting JR.

As for the rumors, supposedly the had a deal done with the GSW.

I wouldnt read to much into it after what Karl said. He's not the GM, but from what I read he's doing everything he can to make Denver look like they dont need AI. Basically Denver only takes him if they can get him cheap. Thats what this battle amounst 10 or so teams is. To see who isnt the cheapest.
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