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Old 01-01-2007, 02:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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It's always nice to say on message boards that a player should learn to pass more..but it's just his game. I mean it's been 10 years, take it or leave it.

Even still I disagree with Slicc. The problem with the Sixers big men is that they were incapable of scoring. They couldn't just take the zip they got off his penetration and slam it in. Part of that is his fault too, because they were surprised a lot too, and that goes back to him not passing it all that much. But the Denver move seems to be an overrall mentality change. He believes in his teammates now for the most part, as he should, because they were established offensively before he got there.

Camby, Nene, and Kmart, if he gets healthy are all guys that will benefit off his penetration, because they rely on dunking it off easy looks. You've seen him kick it out to Boykins and Johnson, and a lot of those passes are harder than a simple dumpoff to Camby will be.
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Old 01-01-2007, 07:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
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AI is doing just what I thought he would do coming here to Denver. He's playing great, and will only get better as he gets more comfortable on the court with his new team. Also he turns the Nuggets into legit contenders who can knock off the Spurs/Mavs to go to the finals. Check my earlier posts in this forum regarding a possible AI trade coming to Denver for evidence.

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Old 01-01-2007, 09:37 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm just glad Denver finally got their 2. Now the Clippers need to finally get that star they're always in the hunt for. They've seriously been in negotiaions for every star thats been available the past two years.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:17 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Even still I disagree with Slicc. The problem with the Sixers big men is that they were incapable of scoring. They couldn't just take the zip they got off his penetration and slam it in. Part of that is his fault too, because they were surprised a lot too, and that goes back to him not passing it all that much. But the Denver move seems to be an overrall mentality change. He believes in his teammates now for the most part, as he should, because they were established offensively before he got there.
What does that have to do with what I said?
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What does that have to do with what I said?
You were talking about how you thought big men worked with AI and I replied with my opinion on how it actually works.
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there are two sides to the AI story. You can go with the "guy didnt get any help in philly story" or you can go with the ball hog chucker story.

how well he works out in denver over the long haul will prove either theory. If AI is cool with lower scoring and an outrageous amount of assists then its all good. Based on the past couple of games.... it is believable.

But still, I want to see it work with me long term before I start calling the nuggets serious contenders. Talentwise, the Nuggets are up there with any team. How well will it mesh.
I was talking more specifically about the Darth-Hoax "thug life" comment (who just so happens to now have an "all-thug team" signature), although it applies to the basketball part of him too.

I can buy your argument just fine. Personally, I didn't see a whole lot of Iverson's games when his was in Philadelphia, so I don't feel completely qualified to talk about his game. However, I saw enough to understand the situation: the team was pretty awful. If you think about the "scoring options" he had when he was there, I think his amount of shots were justifiable. Unfortunately, no team can succeed with a single player taking that many shots, and Iverson's stubborness prevented him from seeing this. That said, looking at the Olympics, I find it odd that people could not envision Iverson as a true point guard.
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And by the way...

The Philadelphia theorum is working out in Denver right now. Surrounded by a lack of talent, Iverson continues to distribute the ball to wide open players - and they continue to miss...and we continue to lose.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Right, because people aren't supposed to learn, or admit their mistakes. That would be stupid.
I don't see it as an honest mistake. I see it as soemone buying into all the media hype and allowing someone else to think for them.

I still have a hard time understanding why people refer to Iverson as a thug. It is nothing more than a media concoction. People who buy into that shouldn't be let off the hook.
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Old 01-05-2007, 03:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Saw this caption in a gallery of AI photos in the LA Times. We had forgotten what a money maker this guy is when it comes to selling merchandise.

" ... The impact of Iverson has been felt in more ways than just on the court. The Altitude Authentics Team Store has sold 1,700 Iverson jerseys in the last week."

Expect that to continue or increase when Melo and JR returns and the team plays their exciting brand of bball.

Remember, he was the leading jersey seller every year until every one had his Philly jersey and there was no need to buy another. NOW, the same trend will follow w/Nugget jerseys. You can bet, Reebok is busy designing a shoe for the Nuggets.

Gotta love him ... it.
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I doubt that Melo and AI will average over 30 each when both are on the court. Probrably more like 27/24
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I don't see it as an honest mistake. I see it as soemone buying into all the media hype and allowing someone else to think for them.

I still have a hard time understanding why people refer to Iverson as a thug. It is nothing more than a media concoction. People who buy into that shouldn't be let off the hook.
sliccat is an iverson hater and regularly shows his lack of knowledge on both the sixer and nugget forums that he moderates

Personally i`ve given up reading his posts because he`s not a fan of anything except his keyboard IMO
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sliccat is an iverson hater and regularly shows his lack of knowledge on both the sixer and nugget forums that he moderates

Personally i`ve given up reading his posts because he`s not a fan of anything except his keyboard IMO
I'm an iverson hater? You, my friend, have issues.
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I'm an iverson hater? You, my friend, have issues.
Hello Everyone, I'm a Philly poster and just wanted to see what you guys were thinking of my boi Iverson. Nice assessment some of you guys have......


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I agree with you Slicatt....www.starbury.com has plenty of issues. He seems to like to attack guys then runs and hides when you point something out to him that he's totally wrong about. And he swears to god that he has the holy bible/koran on the game of basketball. Dude trips me out because he thinks he knows all and likes to tell other poster they know nothing. I have been posting with you on the philly boards for awhile and I just wanted to put my 2cents in that your not a AI hater. I like www.star post sometimes but a lot of times he shows his mental issues!
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Did anybody actually re-read the post? I said in my second post that I mistyped...I said Melo's points go up, and AI's go down, but his assists go up.

It's nice taht the Nuggets are losing right now, cause AI will see that he can't do it by himself, and he'll be happy to get Melo the ball.

I can call AI a thug all I want, becuase that's what he is.

If you can't see that, you're just blind.
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