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RoddneyThaRippa · 01-14-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MillerTime

I don't really think they need major changes to their top players, the core is there, and even i'd go to say your starters are very good, but your weakness in my opinion is your depth. Steve Blake was a good addition but theres little else to the bench. Miami improved their bench last year and won the title... before then they had outstanding starting 5 and weak bench.

Yep. This was my main point.

RoddneyThaRippa · 01-14-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 23AJ

It's true the Nuggets bench needs a lot of work. I say get rid of Evans keep Najera. Move DerMarr, Kleiza but keep Diawara. He's solid on defense against other teams big gurds ala Tracy McGrady. Bring in some shooters for our second unit. That's the one area Boykins helped the Nuggets, is he was a spark plug for scoring off the bench. However the core of this team is great. I just hope K-Mart can come back, and contribue.

Kenyon would work wonders for this team, as he would benefit from Iverson's penetration and put backs created by drawing the defense. He definitely can finish the ball, which is something we're sorely missing.

nbanoitall · 01-15-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 23AJ

Good point's regarding Evans. However he's quite the offensive liability IMO. I Do like what he gives the team though. If K-Mart can't comeback at some point. I would be in favor of keeping Evans.

every great team needs a garbage disposal

**cpawfan** · 01-15-2007, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RoddneyThaRippa

I don't know about that. The organization never should've had him put on that weight. If they figure it out and have him take it off, he can still be a power forward.

He is around 275 now and the team wants him at 260 which will allow him to play some minutes at PF, but he'll still be mostly a center.

**cpawfan** · 01-15-2007, 02:44 AM

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Blake may already be out the door. If so it's a terrible move by the Nuggets IMO. As Blake showcased how well he can fit into a system with stars who dominate the ball, and play quite well himself.

That rumor was laughed at from the Nuggets side. Apparently they plan to resign him this summer

**cpawfan** · 01-15-2007, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RoddneyThaRippa

Shooting is fundamental to basketball. If you can't grasp that, I'm not going to continue to argue with you.

My concerns have to do with the playoffs, when teams have time to prepare for a seven game series - that's why Phoenix will never win a championship as currently constructed. When you have a paucity of shooters on the floor, you are somewhat nullifying other important things such as spacing and passing.

Face it: we aren't going to run up and down the court for 48 minutes and get easy layups and dunks in a seven game series. It is critical that we improve our half court set. Thus, it is critical that we add more shooters to this team. We don't need to be like Phoenix, but we need more than we have.

All nice in theory, but you still haven't seen what the current team can actually do on the floor. The addition of AI to Melo is a huge impact on the half court set and automatically creates floor spacing. The half court sets failed last year because there was no one to take pressure off of Melo. AI has willed his team further in the playoffs with lesser teammates when teams have made him the focus of their defense.

The 9 man rotation for the playoffs looks like
Bigs: Camby / Nene / Eddie / Reggie
Wings: Melo / JR / Yak / AI / Blake

Eddie can make open shots (although he is in his annual slump right now), so the only guy that teams will collapse off of is Yak, but his 10 minutes a game would be with 2 of the 3 scorers (AI, Melo, JR) on the floor with him.

Of course every team would like to have a snipper that parks at the 3 point line or in the corner and waits for the kick out. However, there aren't that many of them that are able to contribute on defense and are available for what the Nuggets have to trade.

This team has improved a ton just by getting rid of Dre and the smurf

melo4life · 01-15-2007, 05:03 AM

Steve Blake was a good pickup IMO, he has played 2 games and scored around 35 points, 10 assists, about 8 rebounds, thats pretty good in 2 games for a new team,, in a few weeks time with Carmelo back i think that he is going to fit in really well,,, yeah i say get rid of Diawara for a while, put him in the D-League, Kleiza can be a good player like he showed yesterday, did fairly well, DeMarr just doesnt really get enough playing time for him to show how good he really is,, but other then that i think we have nearly the beat lineup in the league, with Carmelo back its going to be awesome to watch the nuggets

RoddneyThaRippa · 01-21-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cpawfan

All nice in theory, but you still haven't seen what the current team can actually do on the floor. The addition of AI to Melo is a huge impact on the half court set and automatically creates floor spacing. The half court sets failed last year because there was no one to take pressure off of Melo. AI has willed his team further in the playoffs with lesser teammates when teams have made him the focus of their defense.

The 9 man rotation for the playoffs looks like
Bigs: Camby / Nene / Eddie / Reggie
Wings: Melo / JR / Yak / AI / Blake

Eddie can make open shots (although he is in his annual slump right now), so the only guy that teams will collapse off of is Yak, but his 10 minutes a game would be with 2 of the 3 scorers (AI, Melo, JR) on the floor with him.

Of course every team would like to have a snipper that parks at the 3 point line or in the corner and waits for the kick out. However, there aren't that many of them that are able to contribute on defense and are available for what the Nuggets have to trade.

This team has improved a ton just by getting rid of Dre and the smurf

I agree. The mere addition of Blake seemed to immediately open up space. When Carmelo comes back that will only increase.

I still want to see us add one or two more shooters but after watching these past few games, we might be able to make due with what we got. My best guess is that opposing teams dare Iverson to make outside shots. Unfortunately, that means giving him space, which means giving him the opportunity to get into the lane.

This is going to be so crazy tomorrow. I wish I could go to sleep right now and wake up just before game time. Carmelo and Iverson? Crazy.

RoddneyThaRippa · 01-21-2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by melo4life

Steve Blake was a good pickup IMO, he has played 2 games and scored around 35 points, 10 assists, about 8 rebounds, thats pretty good in 2 games for a new team,, in a few weeks time with Carmelo back i think that he is going to fit in really well,,, yeah i say get rid of Diawara for a while, put him in the D-League, Kleiza can be a good player like he showed yesterday, did fairly well, DeMarr just doesnt really get enough playing time for him to show how good he really is,, but other then that i think we have nearly the beat lineup in the league, with Carmelo back its going to be awesome to watch the nuggets

Meh. Diawara can stick around because his defense is exceptional. I just don't want to see him play over 25 minutes a game.

melo4life · 01-22-2007, 12:56 AM

it depends on his game, some games he can be shooting really well, and some games he is really off, so its hard to say but yeah his defense is really good he just has to practice shooting jumpers more then 3 pointers at the moment

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