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Old 06-07-2003, 11:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nuggets - Melo or Pavel

I don't see how the Nuggest can pass on a 7'5" athletic big man, when 6'"7 SF are of a dime a dozen. 7'5" players are worth more since there are very very few. I look at the number of SF in the draft and I am sure there are at least four who could be better than Melo. Also, Melo has SG size and will be under sized at the SF spot.

I would take Pavel at 3 in minute, he could be another Shaq or Sabonis.
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Old 06-08-2003, 12:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Nuggets - Melo or Pavel

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I don't see how the Nuggest can pass on a 7'5" athletic big man, when 6'"7 SF are of a dime a dozen. 7'5" players are worth more since there are very very few. I look at the number of SF in the draft and I am sure there are at least four who could be better than Melo. Also, Melo has SG size and will be under sized at the SF spot.

I would take Pavel at 3 in minute, he could be another Shaq or Sabonis.
carmelo anthonys are not a dime a dozen.

im glad you are not kiki.
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Old 06-08-2003, 08:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don 't think Melo will be a dominate player

He is as tall as Kobe without his athletism. He is not an athletic who is going to change the Nuggets to a Playoff team.

But a 7"5" 300 pound who runs like a guard at 18 years old with huge upside. I mean how many 7'5" guys with that kind of ability are out there.

The Nuggets have been given a gift, a gift, normally someone like that is the number 1 pick every year...99.9 percent of the time. The Nuggets may never get an opportunity to pick a player with that much potential and that size..ever.

This is like the guys who paid peanuts for Funny Cide and struck gold. Pavel is a stalin, a unique physical speciman freak, who was overlooked for some reason and now are making the GMs and scouts drool.
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Old 06-08-2003, 08:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah draft pavol.......so we can get anthony
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Pavel won't be able to contribute on a consistant basis for atleast three years. The Nuggets need to be able to put points on the board and butts in the seat. They are almost a lock for signing Gilber Arenas. Carmelo would be a great pick. You say 6-7 SF are a dime in a dozen? While that may be true how many 6-7 SF with the kind of ability that Carmelo has are available? So would you rather have Pavel taking time away from Nene and Camby who can contribute right away and a starting SF of Donnell Harvey? I think not. Carmelo is the obvious choice.
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Having Pavel means Nene becomes a 4 fulltime, assuming Pavel stays healthy.

Not many teams ever have had a 4 and a 5 that can physically overpower the way Pavel/Nene would.
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Old 06-08-2003, 11:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Think about it

6"11 at Nene at PF - 19 years old
7'5" Pavel at center - 18 Years old
7'1" Skita at SF - 18 years old

Your set at the front court positions for 15 years. With that front court the Nugget wouldn't have any trouble getting an all-star SG and/or PG in the FA market.
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Old 06-08-2003, 12:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Pavel won't be able to contribute on a consistant basis for atleast three years. The Nuggets need to be able to put points on the board and butts in the seat. They are almost a lock for signing Gilber Arenas. Carmelo would be a great pick. You say 6-7 SF are a dime in a dozen? While that may be true how many 6-7 SF with the kind of ability that Carmelo has are available? So would you rather have Pavel taking time away from Nene and Camby who can contribute right away and a starting SF of Donnell Harvey? I think not. Carmelo is the obvious choice.
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Old 06-08-2003, 12:35 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: I don 't think Melo will be a dominate player

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He is as tall as Kobe without his athletism. He is not an athletic who is going to change the Nuggets to a Playoff team.

But a 7"5" 300 pound who runs like a guard at 18 years old with huge upside. I mean how many 7'5" guys with that kind of ability are out there.

The Nuggets have been given a gift, a gift, normally someone like that is the number 1 pick every year...99.9 percent of the time.
yeah his name is carmelo. we are lucky!

you sound like pavels mom.
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Old 06-08-2003, 01:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Melo at 6'6 is too small for SF

and not quick enough for SG.

He was a great college player and will be a decent undersize SF at best.
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Old 06-08-2003, 02:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That big Russian dude is 7-5! You can't pass on that if he is as good as they say. Him him at center the Nuggets are going to be tough to beat with Nene and Skeeta.
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Old 06-08-2003, 02:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't think drafting Pavel is the best idea. Now you've got 3 real youngsters who need a lot of babysitting and time to improve. 'Melo is the most NBA-ready of the draftees IMO, which is what the Nuggets need more.
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Pavel or Anthony?
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I don't think drafting Pavel is the best idea. Now you've got 3 real youngsters who need a lot of babysitting and time to improve. 'Melo is the most NBA-ready of the draftees IMO, which is what the Nuggets need more.
JWill was supposed to be the most NBA-ready last year, and it didn't mean much... so it's not as if Anthony is guaranteed to just jump to the NBA and play pretty well immediately (though I think he'll do alright next year anyways)

But in my opinion, it all boils down to potential. Even if Anthony develops into a Paul Pierce level player (a fair best-case scenario: Both have all-world talent, but only good, and not all-world athleticism), he'll never, ever match the impact on defense that Pavel can make (if his ankle checks out to be fine. I'm sure if Denver is really considering him at #3, they'll put him through every medical test they can). Pavel and Nene will completely clog the middle... never underestimate the impact of the incredible interior defense the Nuggets would have, regardless of if Pavel becomes a dominant center offensively or not.
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Word is Danver is seriously thinking of trading the pick to Toronto so they can get something and Pavel.

Not a bad more considering Anthony won't be a star, and it doesn't matter if Melo is good now because the team is not that good anyway...


Imagine this frontline in 4 years if there intact.

F Nikoloz Tskitishvili 7'
F Nene Hilario 6'11
C Pavel Podkolzine 7'5
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