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actually arent the positions number? pg 1 sg 2 sf 3..... the starting five....
I get ya but I have to use buckner as an example. Based on that he started and got minutes with denver I say you would have had to consider him one of your top five guys by default like it or not. If say Jones comes in starts and plays big minutes.... it just further will illustrate the problems with denver's backcourt.
This is were the elson situation is different than the jones. They save Robert Horry for games that actually matter later on. In the playoffs we are going to be looking at Duncan, Horry, Bowen, M. Ginobili, and Parker when it counts
Or Stoudmire, Diaw, Marion, Bell, Nash. Now Camby, Nene, Melo, Jones, AI. or Camby Nene, Melo, AI, Atkins.
Its going to be the same story. The only way we get out of the first round is to win enough games not to go up against the top tier of the west. And if that happens (with Melo all year i probably can) we are likely screwed in the 2nd round.
You all proclaim your love for Najera, but moving him might be the key to contending in the west.

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Maybe, but getting Salmons would be disastrous. Not that it will ever happen. They'll ask AI about him and he'll say no.

That's why the situations are the same, not different.

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I guess, according to the above logic, that Vinnie Johnson wasn't top 5 on the Pistons championship teams of the 80's?

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Or Manu isn't one of the top five spurs.

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Quite simply, the front office failed this offseason. Goal? Bring in a defensive wing that can hit threes. It really isn't that hard but they didn't get it done. Can Jones be that guy? From what I understand, and despite his preseason showing, he is fairly limited on offense. Can he be a 35% guy from downtown? I have no idea. If he can, then yes, he is the solution. J.R. has no interest in calming down and playing the game right. Honestly, I'd rather Karl just start him and take the good with the bad, but it isn't going to happen. Diawara doesn't belong in the league. Kleiza is a liability on offense. Wafer? Maybe. I think he'll take some development but he could get there.

What was so difficult about bringing in a stopgap? Karl said the other day that the Atkins-Iverson idea is out the window for now, mostly due to injuries. So the front office expended all that money, time, and energy on getting Karl's "guy" in here, and he isn't even going to start the season.

The only redeeming parts of this offseason have been the fact that the team is fully healthy and have time to develop together. I could see a five to ten game improvement off that alone. But will Karl start running plays? Is he going to make Iverson dump the ball into Nene 15 times a game? Will he start holding everyone responsible for screwing up? I think the big problem here is Karl, and I don't see him changing one iota. Hate to be pessimistic, but I've watched this go coach for awhile and he's absolutely awful, on top of the fact that he is completely arrogant and slow to admit and correct his mistakes.

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I woudl actually like to see the Nuggs pick up Coby Karl. his game reminds me a lot of Luke Walton, who is an energy guy who can hit the open shot when it's given to him.

If the Lakers don't keep him, I would not be surprised if the Nuggs give him a call.

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im being somewhat sarcastic. their are some very valuable 6th men in the league obviously, boykins was for the nuggets previously. my only point is the top teams in the league dont have the problem denver has. bottomline somebody has to play the two guard this year. Until we find somebody I dont consider the Nuggets contenders. Point being contending teams dont rely on players like Jones or Kleiza like this thread talks about the Nuggets relying on them. They Spurs contention certainly doesnt rest on Elson, he isnt the key to anything. When the games matter we are watching Robert Horry hip check people into the scorers table...
Lie to yourself all you want but the Nuggets were to cheap to get us somebody.

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They were too cheap cause they were over the salary cap. Until they can make a trade, they won't be ablet o do anything about that...unless they just go with JR Smith, whcih isn't a bad option with the defenders we have in the post.

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Come around here more often. I really enjoy your basketball posts. Spot on.

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if they would have called up udoka's agent and offered him an LLE multi year deal... he would have taken it.
as Rippa said.... FAILURE.
The team sucked before Melo got here, but ever since he's been here there has been the exact issue that we are talking about. 2 guard issues.
Instead of moving a guy who probably wont be here next year and who plays the same position as Kleiza, they are shopping JR Smith. Najera should be shopped.

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The Nuggs have needed a 2 guard since Fat Lever retired.

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