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**darth-horax** · 12-17-2007, 07:08 AM

Ok, so I have backed Karl ever since BEFORE he came to teh Nuggs. When he arrived, and the taem won most of their remaining games, I, like everyboyd, thought he was the missing link to greatness.

I am now convinced otherwise...I was wrong.

I don't understand his logic 95% of the time. The Nuggets, by default, are one of the worst teams in the L on the second night of back to back games. Then, last night...against one of the youngest teams in the league, he refuses to play anyboyd off of the bench other than Kleiza and Najera.

Say wha?

Why wuold you shorten your bench against young guys ont he second of a back to back? He left JR Smith on the bench the whole game, despite the Nuggs inability to hit any kind of a shot. Karl said that JR wasn't playing defense, but, in his defense, neither was anybody else.
He only plyaed the other reserves for one minute at the end of the fourth.

Karl, not only are you a bad coach, but you're also a mean person. Who likes to play one minute of meaningless time? You're essentially telling our benchers that they have no place on the team.

Moron.

If things don't change soon, I'll expect JR to demand a trade by February, which will be granted within 2 hours...for 2 second round draft pix from a contender.

I think it's time to let Karl go on his merry way, and let the Nuggets get back to ENJOYING the game again.

Horax

**Sliccat** · 12-17-2007, 09:54 PM

it won't happen. they're up to their ears in luxury tax, and the nuggets are 18th in attendance. they're not trying to spend another dollar.

that said, give larry brown a call!

**darth-horax** · 12-18-2007, 10:47 AM

Larry bRown can coach, but cna he and Melo co-exist after the Olympics?

**Sliccat** · 01-07-2008, 06:48 PM

He's doing an absolutely horrible job against phoenix right now. Granted, Denver is really poorly matched up against them, but this is ridiculous.

jimmybean · 01-07-2008, 09:14 PM

Pig face Karl is the man!

NewAgeBaller · 01-08-2008, 03:42 AM

Is Karl one of those coaches that the players don't like at all (eg. Skiles)?

I really think the Nuggets could be doing much better with a new look coach.

Look what the Bulls' players are saying about their new coach, and I think that's EXACTLY what this team needs;

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When Monday's practice was opened to the media, it appeared that the players were finished working and ready for a retreat to the locker room. But then they snapped back into action and spent about 20 minutes on shooting practice.

With that in mind, some players were asked what's different about the Bulls now that Boylan is in charge and gave a variety of answers. All agreed, though, that it's been a positive change.

"Everyone's kind of happier out there," Deng said. "He's really done a good job of just bringing us together, understanding that if we're going to win, we need all of us."

"I think guys are real enthusiastic for some reason," added rookie Joakim Noah. "I don't know why, but that's just the way it is."

As far as what's different about the actual practices, Noah suggested the Bulls are spending more time reviewing game video and working on individual skills.

"We watch a lot more film on the things we could have done better," he said. "We didn't do that a lot before. Instead of just running up and down the whole time (in practice), there's more emphasis on exactly what we're doing."

Deng felt the practices have been more pleasant because Boylan is asking the Bulls to play at a faster tempo.

"We run a lot more," he said. "When we practice, everyone tends to get shots up and it kind of makes the game fun for everybody."

nbanoitall · 01-08-2008, 07:14 AM

you can fire george karl, but it isnt going to make JR Smith play defense or Diawara develop a good outside j.
a good part of the problem is the roster. look at the bulls record. thats why skiles got fired. the nuggets arent doing poorly they just arent doing great either.
this is a team that might get out of the first round, but i dont see contenders.
Larry Brown are you kidding me? Someone forgot USA basketball

**darth-horax** · 01-08-2008, 07:59 AM

My problem with Karl is the fact taht he's down by 20 playing his 4th game in 5 nights against one of the best teams in the league...does he use subs? Nope. This team will burn out come March.

JR Smith has been neutered by Karl. Sure he doesnt' play D, but that's not what he was hired for. He was hired for his instant offense, which has soured greatly since Karl has made him his whipping boy.

Any reason why he hasn't played in 4 games in a row? Why not use your bench a bit and save your big name guys some wear and tear, Karl?

**Sliccat** · 01-08-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nbanoitall

you can fire george karl, but it isnt going to make JR Smith play defense or Diawara develop a good outside j.
a good part of the problem is the roster. look at the bulls record. thats why skiles got fired. the nuggets arent doing poorly they just arent doing great either.
this is a team that might get out of the first round, but i dont see contenders.
Larry Brown are you kidding me? Someone forgot USA basketball

Someone else missed a joke.

**Sliccat** · 01-08-2008, 12:10 PM

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It's sad to say, but it's time for George Karl to go in Denver.

While the coach has no doubt helped the Nuggets reach respectability in a crowded Western Conference, the team has failed to make any real improvements in three years under his tutelage.

In fact, Denver still has the same problems on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.

The offense scores well over 100 points per game, but has no real direction. Every possession seems improvised. Eventually the ball ends up in the hands of Carmelo Anthony or Allen Iverson, and one of the two ends up taking it to the hoop.

I'm not saying this can't work, as they are two of the top scorers in the league, but it seems like streetball.

There's no one down low to pass to, as Kenyon Martin and Marcus Camby hang out around the wing. There's also no consistent three-point shooter to kick to when Anthony gets doubled.

Solid defensive teams like the Spurs, Pistons, and Jazz can exploit the Nuggets' lack of offensive organization. I realize Denver beat San Antonio the other night, but the Nuggets scored only 80 points in doing so.

Defense also remains an issue. For the third straight year, Denver is giving up over 100 points per game.

While Karl maintains that the team is committed to defense, it's hard to agree based on performance. It's one thing to say you're committed to D; it's another to actually commit.

For a team with three so-called "great defenders" (Camby, AI, K-Mart), the Nuggets should be doing far better than they are.

The problem?

The guards play with their hands at their sides, Martin only gets up for certain possessions, and Camby, while his numbers are good, leaves the basket wide open on too many occasions.

Opponents have learned that if they put their big man on the wing, Camby will follow, creating a perfect lane to the basket.

One thing that makes the Spurs defense so good is that Tim Duncan and Fabricio Oberto rarely get more than three feet away from the hoop. The Nuggets must embrace this philosophy if they want to win a playoff series.

The final problem, meanwhile, concerns the acquisition of Iverson.

If you acquire a guy like AI, you should win eight or nine more games per season. It hurt to lose Andre Miller and Reggie Evans in the Iverson trade—but the Nuggets picked up a no-doubt Hall-of-Fame scorer with incredible quickness and a nose for the ball.

However, even with AI on the floor, Denver has shown few noticeable improvements.

Karl's teams have a habit of underachieving. He had an amazing squad in Seattle in the early 90s but made only one Finals appearance. In Milwaukee, his Bucks—with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Glenn Robinson, and Tim Thomas—lost in the Eastern Conference Finals to Iverson and the 76ers.

The Nuggets will once again finish in the ballpark of 50 wins, probably good enough for the No. 5 seed in the West. However, I don't see Denver winning a series until they get a coach who can foster flow on offense and commitment on defense.

http://www.bleacherreport.com/articl..._Got_It-080108

**Sliccat** · 01-08-2008, 12:13 PM

Who could they replace him with though? It will take a very unique coach to not only make them good defensively, but exploit their offensive talents to the fullest.

RoddneyThaRippa · 01-09-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nbanoitall

you can fire george karl, but it isnt going to make JR Smith play defense or Diawara develop a good outside j.
a good part of the problem is the roster. look at the bulls record. thats why skiles got fired. the nuggets arent doing poorly they just arent doing great either.
this is a team that might get out of the first round, but i dont see contenders.
Larry Brown are you kidding me? Someone forgot USA basketball

Diawara and Smith don't get playing time anyway.

George Karl is just a ****ing idiot. That's really all it comes down to.

RoddneyThaRippa · 01-09-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliccat

http://www.bleacherreport.com/articl..._Got_It-080108

Real talk. If only a mainstream outlet would write something quality like this.

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