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Re: Nuggets talking to Kings about Artest
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Scrwe it...trade em all for a bag o' M and M's and some toffee.
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wait til june. use the knicks stupidity against them and the bulls need for size against them.
i'd try a redd for nene and najera deal now.
then force the bulls to take both camby and kmart as a package. the nuggets get back ben wallace, joe smith, and tyrus thomas. they save a load and get a talented young guy.
lets hope thomas is still running the show in ny in june. give him AI for marburys expiring deal (buyout) and their first round pick. they wont have a top 3 pick, so lets assume he is stupid enough to trade it away. i'd try and take their 2nd rounder too.
then you have a 4 to10 pick (which could land Jordan, mayo, gordon etc) plus
then the nuggets draft 17 to 25.
then a high 2nder round
you shed a bunch of salary and bring in Tyrus Thomas and 3 rookies.
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02-08-2008, 09:28 AM
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Re: Nuggets talking to Kings about Artest
Artest asked for $80M contract. Kings wanted to pack with Kenny Thomas...
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02-09-2008, 12:31 PM
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Re: Nuggets talking to Kings about Artest
Artest's future still remains a mystery
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Although Nuggets vice president Mark Warkentien is believed to be in favor of acquiring Artest, the sources said coach George Karl is hesitant for a number of reasons. He is a fan of Artest's game, the sources said, but somewhat uneasy about losing forward Eduardo Najera in a deal in light of the uncertain status of Nene. The Nuggets' power forward is undergoing treatment for testicular cancer and hasn't played since Jan. 7.
In the meantime, Najera - who has an expiring contract ($4.95 million) and would likely come the Kings' way if a deal transpired - is filling his role and his departure would leave a void. The more pertinent question might be whether the Nuggets would give up small forward Linas Kleiza, whose contract ($1.01 million this season, team option for 2008-09 at $1.82 million) and upside intrigues the Kings.
The Kings might also attempt to send forward Kenny Thomas to Denver as well, while the Nuggets are believed to be making shooting guard J.R. Smith and his expiring contract ($2.1 million) available in the right deal. Denver isn't the only team who could come calling about Artest, especially in a Western Conference in which just five games separated first place and eighth place entering Friday. And although the Artest fear factor remains for most around the league as it pertains to his reputation, there are also those who wonder if he could do for them what he did for the Kings when leading their surprising playoff run in 2006.
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02-09-2008, 12:32 PM
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I'd love to see J.R. Smith gone. His crazy shot attempts in the playoffs last year pissed me off. 
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02-09-2008, 01:43 PM
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I flip flop on this every day. On one hand, Artest is always a good boy in his first year with a team, and even if he opts out, that would hopefully only leave denver short of kleiza. On the other hand, nobody on the team hustles like those two, except occasionally JR.
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02-11-2008, 08:00 AM
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I don't know...this is all too crazy. I mean, Ron can help us out big time, but I'd hate to lose Kleiza.
As much as I love Najera, I think he's expendable if we have someboyd else who can play the post.
Nene is a question mark. When he's healthy, he's a beast, but when is he healthy?
JR is an enigma, but if Karl won't play him, why keep him?
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The thing about Ron is that he's the one player who could really turn the nuggets into contenders if he'll play his hardest. Sure, it would move AI to point, but only for stretches. If you stagger him with AI and Carmelo right, he'd be in while both of them are out, which would account for more than half of his minutes, so it wouldn't change much there, and it would put Anthony Carter into his natural back up spot.
I have to say it's worth the risk. Right now, the nuggets have nobody who can guard perimeter players.
John Salmons, I suppose would also be a fairly good option, though I don't think it will happen.
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02-14-2008, 11:15 PM
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The Kings beat writer still thinks that Denver is his most likely destination:
Tick, tock, tick, tock...
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One week and counting until the trade deadline.
And from this corner of the NBA world, I still see Denver as the most likely destination for Ron Artest.
Sure, the Nuggets have won six of their last eight, but they can't think for a minute that they're ready to take on the new-look Lakers or the soon-to-be-supped up Dallas Mavericks (folks I talked to today still expect the Jason Kidd deal to eventually go through). They still need help, and Artest showed them on Wednesday night just how much he could provide. Meanwhile among other known potential destinations, it sounds like New York is just going to wait to try and sign Artest in the offseason and I just can't see a scenario in which Golden State actually makes a move for him (Nor, for the record, can the San Jose Mercury's Tim Kawakami in this fine post).
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I spoke to Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie today about a season analysis story, and asked him about the trade front near the end of our conversation. Things heating up, Kings' boss man?
"Uh, on the backburner," he said quietly. "No one's getting traded today."
If it is indeed Denver on the stove, then don't forget that Linas Kleiza is - in my estimation - the key to the deal. He's a young small forward with big upside, and - as Hoopsworld's Travis Heath argues here - he could hold up any potential deal altogether.
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02-15-2008, 01:10 AM
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I'd also rather keep JR than Kleiza. He's a real key to their future.
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02-16-2008, 12:36 AM
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Anthony pushing for Artest
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"I really believe that, if we get Ron Ar- test, that will make our team a lot more powerful, a lot more stronger, a lot deeper than we are right now," Anthony, a starting forward in the All-Star Game at New Orleans Arena, said about the possibility of the Nuggets acquiring the Sacramento forward.
"Ron Artest, you can't go wrong with him. I don't care what happened in the past and the off-the-court things. . . . On the court, he brings it every night."
Two years ago, when Artest was with Indiana and on the trading block, Anthony called for Denver to get him. But Artest went to Sacramento, where he has become yet another big-name player who could switch teams by Thursday's trade deadline.
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02-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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Durr when I saw you posted I was hoping you had something new out your camp not from ours. Heard of this last night already.
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02-16-2008, 02:35 PM
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Denver has to go for this. The need somebody who can really guard the top perimenter players of the west. It's worth every risk. We can say that Iverson isn't a point, but the reality is that he won't have to play point for much longer than he is now. the rotation would be (I'm assuming)
Anthony, Iverson, Carter, Artest, Smith
Point: 48 minutes free - Carter gets 25, Iverson 23
SG: 48 Minutes free - Iverson 27, Artest 10, Smith 11
SF: 48 Minutes free - Anthony 25, Artest 20
PF: about 15 min. free - Anthony gets 10, Artest 5
It has plenty of risks, but if Artest keeps his head on, it vaults the nuggets immediately into true contender status. And even if he leaves, that frees enough money that they'd probably be willing to spend the who $5 mil exception this year. And if they get Nene back, then Karl just gets to bench smith again, and it still works.
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