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zaza? i like it...
bibby sucks and pachulia is racist

if you think zaza and melo would get along...ha.

zaza wines and thinks he's the sh*t, when he really sucks.

if you take anyone from atlanta its joe johnson and josh smith, but its not gonna happen.

you could trade Melo and Iverson to atlanta for smith and johnson but i still think they'd deny it.
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The heat wouldn't do it.
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Yea I can't say we'd do that Heat deal.. Melo I'd love, scoring like 24 ppg or wateva alongside Wade (it'd free up Wade so much too), but Camby + Najera I'm not exactly longing for (at the expense of Marion & Rose - Marion is a $17 mil expiring btw).
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Yea I can't say we'd do that Heat deal.. Melo I'd love, scoring like 24 ppg or wateva alongside Wade (it'd free up Wade so much too), but Camby + Najera I'm not exactly longing for (at the expense of Marion & Rose - Marion is a $17 mil expiring btw).
It would be cool though. They'd have $37 mil coming off the books next year, plus the top draft prospect. Couple it with Nene, JR and Kenyon, that's a dangerous line-up.
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you got your MLE. realistically you can expect the Nuggets to field offers on KMart, Camby, and AI. JR Smith and Najera are your two free agents.
Guys like Michael Redd and Rip Hamilton are good fits around Melo.
I have no problems with Nuggets deciding to go young either. Hopefully the Nuggets pick up Ajinca (especially if they are moving Camby).
The Nuggets need a pass first point guard. If winning next year is important they should take a risk on Tinsley to run the point. I think Indiana is getting fed up with him. They might trade Tinsley alone, but if the Pacers are set on moving JO...then JO and Tinsley for AI, Hunter, and Atkins works.
I'm still a fan of a deal for John Salmons, but I want to add DeShawn Stevenson to the list. He clearly is crazy and just a role player (or soliderboy if you prefer), but he shoots 38% from the three point line and tries hard on defense. He could fit a role for the Nuggets.
Trading for "stars" is not going to fix the Nuggets problems. It is time to find guys that will fit roles around Carmelo Anthony. The team never had a chance against the lakers because they didnt have a role player like Stevenson to come in and guard Bryant.
I still think you can trade KMart. There are plenty of teams that will overpay for some size. The New Jersey Nets seem like one of those teams.
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nobody said anything about trading for stars. guys like redd and rip were ur ideas. and theres no way we can get them.

hinrich is an easy possibility imo. calderon would be ridiculous for our team and as long as hes there we should be interested. id even take tj ford but not ahead of hinrich or calderon, we need size preferably. we need a pass first PG who can also shoot the three consistantly. the closest we have had in a long time was blake but the FO ****ed that one up.
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nobody said anything about trading for stars. guys like redd and rip were ur ideas. and theres no way we can get them.

hinrich is an easy possibility imo. calderon would be ridiculous for our team and as long as hes there we should be interested. id even take tj ford but not ahead of hinrich or calderon, we need size preferably. we need a pass first PG who can also shoot the three consistantly. the closest we have had in a long time was blake but the FO ****ed that one up.
actually youve been gone for awhile. you can put john salmons on me...not rip or redd. those names were not first brought up by me...although i agree with them
all the names im seeing in trade rumors are stars...except for the Melo trades which are for guys like gay or draft picks. Pac you were kinda cool before, but you basically now are the Rev. Wright of the nuggets forum. congrats man, youve lost your mind.
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not sure where u are going with that. what the hell did i do?

i havent made one proposal for a star, unless u count calderon whos a rising star and perfect fit. FIVE years, 4 wins.

carmelo needs more help than any "star" in this league to win playoff games. thats fact. he needs a perfect PG. he needs a very solid low post presence. he needs at least 3 guys in the lineup next to him who can hit threes.

right now he has none of those. blowing it up is the only way.
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not sure where u are going with that. what the hell did i do?.
i've seen what you are willing to give up Melo for Reverend.
"blow it up" is just a knee jerk reaction of fans, bloggers, writers without any common sense.
mutombo left and since then we've never had a decent reason to believe (although I liked Dice) until Melo came along. Instead of building the right way the Nuggets decided to speed things up and trade for AI. They **** ed up. No reason to trade Melo and risk sending the Nuggets back to the cellar for the next decade.
its time to put the right guys around melo...anything else...like "blowing it up" is truely insane. I understand the shop the veterans philosophy, but thats it
instead of selling the farm to land rose...why not trade up into the lotto to finally draft a future starting shooting guard. if you want a young pg the nets have a young backup for example. or the pacers have a vet they are fed up with.
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not sure where u are going with that. what the hell did i do?

i havent made one proposal for a star, unless u count calderon whos a rising star and perfect fit. FIVE years, 4 wins.

carmelo needs more help than any "star" in this league to win playoff games. thats fact. he needs a perfect PG. he needs a very solid low post presence. he needs at least 3 guys in the lineup next to him who can hit threes.

right now he has none of those. blowing it up is the only way.
There's no way Calderon is equal value for Melo. Gay and a pick I can see, but you're starting to underrate him. Is he Kobe? No, but he's as good a pure scorer as there is, weaknesses notwithstanding.
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i've seen what you are willing to give up Melo for Reverend.
"blow it up" is just a knee jerk reaction of fans, bloggers, writers without any common sense.
mutombo left and since then we've never had a decent reason to believe (although I liked Dice) until Melo came along. Instead of building the right way the Nuggets decided to speed things up and trade for AI. They **** ed up. No reason to trade Melo and risk sending the Nuggets back to the cellar for the next decade.
its time to put the right guys around melo...anything else...like "blowing it up" is truely insane. I understand the shop the veterans philosophy, but thats it
instead of selling the farm to land rose...why not trade up into the lotto to finally draft a future starting shooting guard. if you want a young pg the nets have a young backup for example. or the pacers have a vet they are fed up with.
To be fair, Miller and Camby might have had a little to do with it. He couldn't have won without them anymore than they could've without him.
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