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Old 06-28-2008, 07:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok, so the draft is over and we managed to land a superstar in Sonny Weems. Since im a little skeptical Sonny is going to get us to a title I thought I might endorse a few moves now that we are about to enter free agency and are past the draft.
Move 1: Atkins, Hunter for Jamal Tinsley
Move 2: John Salmons, Sheldon Williams for Nene
Move 3: Use LLE on Gerald Green
I'll anounce who I think the Nuggets should spend their MLE on and two more trades involving AI and Camby in a couple days when I reach a conclusion.
Right now I have the MLE targets on Pietrus and eep Ricky Davis. But assuming I would trade for salmons, sign green, and the Nuggets bring back Smith these guys might not be necessary.
I'm also thinking half for Chris Duhon or Damon Stoudmire or Cassell (he's old and he'll want the full MLE- not sure hes worth it) and not sure about the other half
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ok it pains me to suggest this- but i've thought about what the nuggets would accept back and teams that would be in the market for AI. my thoughts are the nuggets are going to want expiring contracts back for their expiring contract plus picks- so that really limits what I can propose with AI- if we could take on contracts I started out with the clips and a sign and trade of Maggette plus more. but i'll post two endorsed trades for expiring contracts plus picks.
Endorsed move 1: AI for Marbury (buyout) and 2 first rounders
Endorsed move 2: AI for Szczerbiak and Eric Show and 2 first rounders
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Old 06-28-2008, 07:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is with New Jersey- I think considering how bad they still could use K-Mart back and the proposal that I make- that it is fair for all sides- but i fully admit its by no means a given.

2nd endorsed move: Stromile Swift (exp), Keith Van Horn (not playing), Maurice Ager, Marcus Williams, for Kenyon Martin and a first round pick (via cleveland)
basically the only real prospect they are trading is Williams and the Nuggets save a little money but take on Van Horns contract as well.
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Endorsed Trade: Camby for Jason Terry Eddie Jones (exp) Brandon Bass
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Endorsed Trade: Linas Kleiza, Mo Ager for Channing Frye
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MLE signing David Harrison, Patrick O'Bryant (sign both as cheap as possible)
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What the lineup might look like:
1. Jamal Tinsley, Jason Terry, Marcus Williams
2. John Salmons, Jr Smith, Sonny Weems
3. Carmelo Anthony, Gerald Green
4. Brandon Bass, Sheldon Williams, Stromile Swift
5. Channing Frye, Patrick O'Bryant, David Harrison
15th man: resign Anthony Carter or Najera or some min. contract maybe Randolph Morris or keep Eddie Jones
Waived: Stephon Marbury, Keith Van Horn, Eric Snow, Eddie Jones
Kind of a questionable front court- but it allows Melo to play the 3 or the 4 which would give Jason Terry time at the 2 and Williams time as the backup PG. I like Bass alot. Channing Frye is kind of a question mark at the center.
Is this ideal? No but I certainly think I proposed things both teams would do. And that includes the Nuggets there are certainly things I might do that the nuggets just wouldnt.
The team gets some younger players and picks. We also have a pretty stacked backcourt. Bass would really come alive in the low post and on the boards so I think we would have ourselves a starting PF for a long time. During the season and going into the summer the nuggets will probably look at what can be done with the center position.
you have to look at a lineup like this as a start to build around melo long term. AI and Camby are talented guys- but AI is in his last year and Camby is getting older and has had injury issues in the past.
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i think there are only about 3 deals we should be going after

1. hinrich. this should be the number one priority (outside of re-signing JR). it just makes too much damn sense and we have the pieces to get him.
2. okafor. our only chance at all is that negotiations suck and both partys end up ready to split. an iverson trade would be enticing due to the $22 million expiring and the fact that larry brown is the head coach. i would even give them both of next year's picks.
3. expirings and picks for camby. if we somehow landed another mid to late 1st for camby and a bit of relief, we could do some serious damage before the trade deadline with THREE 1sts and/or guys like iverson and kleiza.
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It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.
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Can I chime in for a bit?

Hinrich for Camby is a great move, and soemthing that should really be looked into. Singing Tinsley if he gets cut wouldn't hurt too much either.

Re-sign J.R. Smith
Some anonymous player with the MLE. NOT Ricky Davis.

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IDK what you guys can do, but get Hinrich. It would suck to give up Camby though, as he anchors your defense (which is the 2nd best in the NBA per 100 possessions).

Re-sign JR Smith, and Najera (hustle guy every team needs) and you are good to go.

Hinrich | Atkins?
AI | Smith
Melo | Kleiza
Martin | Nene
? | Hunter

I suppose you use the rest of your players that aren't in that 9 man rotation to try and pick up a young starting Center (someone like Dalembert or close). I think that team would compete for another playoff spot.

anyways, i'm bored so i'm just throwin' thoughts out there. Good luck next year. Can't wait to watch the Blazers vs Nuggets division rivalry. Should be cool. later
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If Thomas wants to stop people from running up the score on him, then he should have built a better club. He shouldn't have wasted all that money on illogical signings, outrageous trades and heartless characters.

No, Thomas and his guys weren't the only ones in the wrong Saturday. The Nuggets have their own issues. But when it was over, at least they weren't crying, at least they weren't punking.

It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.

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IDK what you guys can do, but get Hinrich. It would suck to give up Camby though, as he anchors your defense (which is the 2nd best in the NBA per 100 possessions).

Re-sign JR Smith, and Najera (hustle guy every team needs) and you are good to go.

Hinrich | Atkins?
AI | Smith
Melo | Kleiza
Martin | Nene
? | Hunter

I suppose you use the rest of your players that aren't in that 9 man rotation to try and pick up a young starting Center (someone like Dalembert or close). I think that team would compete for another playoff spot.

anyways, i'm bored so i'm just throwin' thoughts out there. Good luck next year. Can't wait to watch the Blazers vs Nuggets division rivalry. Should be cool. later
camby doesnt anchor anything. our defense is much better with him out of the lineup. nene is our center btw. he is so much more effective on offense and hes the better overall defender than camby by a long shot. camby might be the better rebounder, but thats only because he steals everything. nene actually boxes people out. id bet melo comes close to 10 boards a night w/o camby. so as far as that goes, rebounding doesnt worry me at all.

all in all i agree with everything else. its not likely that we can re-sign both najera and JR. so najera will most likely be gone, which is sad because he is probably our best player in a way. the guy never does anything wrong...
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No, Thomas and his guys weren't the only ones in the wrong Saturday. The Nuggets have their own issues. But when it was over, at least they weren't crying, at least they weren't punking.

It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.
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nobody else thinks brandon bass would be a nice fit for us?
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genius trade: iverson + hunter for al harrington + '09 1st

puts us right around the cap and gives us more stability trading camby for a PG. and we get THREE 1sts for next year (sexy trading pieces?).

we would be able to sign JR more easily and najera too and still have a bit of mle to get a guy like elson back (or somebody to back up nene)

harrington would be a nice fit with melo and nene too.

hinrich? / chucky
JR / kleiza
melo / kleiza
harrington / kmart
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If Thomas wants to stop people from running up the score on him, then he should have built a better club. He shouldn't have wasted all that money on illogical signings, outrageous trades and heartless characters.

No, Thomas and his guys weren't the only ones in the wrong Saturday. The Nuggets have their own issues. But when it was over, at least they weren't crying, at least they weren't punking.

It's all gone in New York now – the pride, the respect, the dignity. This isn't just a bad team; this is a bad act. A once proud franchise and fan base brought to its knees as its pathetic coach makes excuses and whines for mercy.
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i'm really losing faith in our organization's ability to draft.
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