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07-12-2004, 08:40 AM
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Why Isn't Richard Hamilton an All-Star?
What does this guy have to do to be in the next All-Star Game?
This guy certainly has the numbers.
.455 fg
.868 ft
3.60 rpg
4.0 apg
1.32 spg
17.6 ppg
This guy is young, and because he is surrounded by so many other good players, he is also overshadowed.
His closest rival Michael Redd has a lower percentage, and Richard Hamilton helped to his team to a championship.
Opposing teams are simply terrified of Hamilton for his speed and ability to catch and shoot.
His apg rival that of many pgs in the league today.
Whats this man gotta do?
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07-12-2004, 08:44 AM
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Well, to be honest, I still don't see how Michael Redd was chosen over Hamilton. You're right, he deserves to be an all-star. Well, Since T-Mac has gone to the west, that might free up the SG position a bit. Iverson will now be the starting SG and Hamilton should come off the bench!
Oh I don't really think he's overshadowed because he kinda needs those guys to use as screens for him to score off the catch-and-shoot!
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07-12-2004, 08:48 AM
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I think the prototypical SG All-Star stats are:
20ppg
5rpg
3-5apg
%'s dont matter to the fans/coaches in an allstar game. His stats are pretty damn close to those though and I expect him to be an All-Star next year.
Personally, I think Rip is a great player. He can handle the 1/2 and is the best midrange jumpshooter in the NBA right now I think.
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07-12-2004, 08:49 AM
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He probably should be or is damn close.
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07-12-2004, 08:49 AM
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Either Rip or Chauncy will likely make all-stars this year.
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07-12-2004, 09:16 AM
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Lebron 20ppg 5rb 5***
Iverson 27 ppg 5***
J-Kidd all arounf triple double
Francis Fan Favorit but overrated
Wade
If you look at those players they are better,more exciting or more popular than Hamilton.
He is a great player, but he isn't all-star material ( read: fan favorite or a star )
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07-12-2004, 09:17 AM
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WTF it read assits as "a---s----s" ??
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07-12-2004, 09:23 AM
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His numbers aren't even impressive. 17 points, 4 assists, average rebounding average steals, good fg%, bad 3-ptfg%. Larry Hughes and Jamal Crawford for example put up better numbers as a SG, although at a lower percentage.
Remember, Lebron didn't even make the All-Star team with 20/5/5 last year. It's not that easy to make it these days in the East when you have Iverson, Lebron, Kidd, Francis, Arenas, Wade, Marbury. All those guys are going to put up better all around stats than Rip.
The main reason he won't make the All-Star team is because him and Billups cancel each other out. They both put out very similar numbers but you can't say one is more important than the other.
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07-12-2004, 09:27 AM
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Hamilton just doesn't stand out enough as an individual talent on the team-oriented Detroit squad. As has been said, percentages don't really enter anyone's mind when thinking of all-stars, and his other stats are far from extraordinary -- 17/4/4/1 is certainly nice, but they don't scream "All-Star!" Factor in how deep the guard spot is in the east and how there's only about 3 available spots (he isn't getting in via fan voting), and he certainly has his work cut out for him.
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WTF it read assits as "a---s----s" ??
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Yes. It's an automatic filter that has no idea what context you're using the word in. Just say APG -- no more difficult to type, and actually a far more common abbreviation.
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07-12-2004, 09:29 AM
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Jamal Crawford and Larry Hughes should never be compared to the likes of Hamilton and Redd. Those two get their numbers from sheer volume of shots, playing time on s**t teams and they're the main offensive option on their teams. Who the bulls have? exactly. Who do the Wiz have? Arenas, hayes...? yep.
Hamilton wins games with his consistency and utilization of the mid range game (lost art)
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07-12-2004, 09:36 AM
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Numbers don't scream all-star? please compare him to Franchise and Redd. Franchise is a starter for the west. His numbers are equal if not better to Francis's poor inconsistencies (much lower %) and inability to lead his team.
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07-12-2004, 09:36 AM
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Mid-range jump shops don't scream all-star.
I don't want to go to the All-Star to see people try mid-range shots.
I want Dunks and Spectacular plays, something Hamilton isn't very good at.
He is a very good player, but not a popular one and not all-star material.
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07-12-2004, 10:17 AM
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Francis is probably the only guard who got into the All-Star game with bad stats last year.
Everybody else, had great individual stats on a good team.
Hamilton is on a good team, HE DOESN'T PUT UP GOOD INDIVIDUAL STATS. 17/4/3 is average or below average for guys that are the #1 or #2 option on thier team.
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07-12-2004, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by <b>Flamesta</b>!
Numbers don't scream all-star? please compare him to Franchise and Redd. Franchise is a starter for the west. His numbers are equal if not better to Francis's poor inconsistencies (much lower %) and inability to lead his team.
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Why'd Francis make the team last year??? FAN VOTES...
Rip is one of my favorite players, but he isn't one of the most exciting players and didn't put up All-Star type stats last year.
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07-12-2004, 12:53 PM
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Re: Why Isn't Richard Hamilton an All-Star?
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Originally posted by <b>Flamesta</b>!
What does this guy have to do to be in the next All-Star Game?
This guy certainly has the numbers.
.455 fg
.868 ft
3.60 rpg
4.0 apg
1.32 spg
17.6 ppg
This guy is young, and because he is surrounded by so many other good players, he is also overshadowed.
His closest rival Michael Redd has a lower percentage, and Richard Hamilton helped to his team to a championship.
Opposing teams are simply terrified of Hamilton for his speed and ability to catch and shoot.
His apg rival that of many pgs in the league today.
Whats this man gotta do?
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Everyone who made the eastern allstar squad had a better first half of the season than Rip. Years before he didn't really warrant much consideration.
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