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AdamIllman · 06-04-2005, 07:32 PM

Do you guys not find it frustrating that Larry Brown refuses to put Darko in with 4 or 5 minutes left and a 20+ point lead? It pisses me off and I'm a Raptors fan.

PacersguyUSA · 06-04-2005, 07:34 PM

No, because that's actually more minutes than he deserves.

**kamego** · 06-04-2005, 07:35 PM

Don't mind pacer he isn't a piston fan lol. Darko did fine tonight in a few minutes out there. We didn't put our bench in until Miami did. It wasn't anything to do with Darko tonight.

**ballocks** · 06-04-2005, 11:00 PM

i posted about it a long time ago but i guess it hasn't really been addressed: the darko-detroit saga hasn't gotten enough attention, imo. sure, there are those impatient fans who want to label him a bust, etc., and do so vocally, but there hasn't been as much darko talk as i would have expected.

first of all, i guess you can't really criticize men like joe dumars and larry brown since they haven't lost a playoff series since they selected milicic, but i can't be the only one who wonders what kind of a draft pick that really was. i mean, if they weren't going to play whoever they were going to pick, maybe they should have dealt that pick for some current assets that could help the team? i don't know, maybe they tried, but from what i remember it was darko milicic with no consideration being paid to the alternatives (trade or otherwise). i can't say i agree with that (or agreed with that then) but, hey, who am i to question the move: they haven't been eliminated since they made that "mistake".

still, i can't help but wonder what a waste of an asset it seems to have been. i mean, they could have surely gotten some additional help to make their championship contender even better. i mean, darko doesn't seem to be helping them in any way- is he? if they had traded #2 for the kind of player who could have contributed to a larry brown team, would that have been an unnecessary distraction? is that how dumars justifies the move- did they have too many bodies already? i don't know. it's just so strange.

and really, regardless of how they view milicic at the moment, i can't say i would agree to develop him in the same way- championship(s) or not. have his two years on the bench helped him at all? he must view his nba experience to date as an utter waste of time. furthermore, i'm honestly sort of afraid that his talent hasn't been given sufficient room to grow- i think he may have paid a penalty (in a way) by sitting on the bench for two years and not really doing much productive "work". i think that kind of development program would be more of a hindrance than a help for the majority of professional ballplayers, and i just wonder what group darko milicic belongs to.

all things considered, it's just a strange draft pick to justify- one of the most bizarre selections in recent memory, no question. and if the pistons win another title this summer, it'll be deemed even more strange. the darko pick (followed by carmelo, bosh and wade) couldn't have been a good move... could it?

peace

Pacers Fan · 06-04-2005, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kamego

Don't mind pacer he isn't a piston fan lol.

So not being a Pistons fan makes your opinion worthless and you unintelligent?

**ChrisWoj** · 06-05-2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

So not being a Pistons fan makes your opinion worthless and you unintelligent?

Nah, just the ones that come on our forum only to put down one of our players every time he is mentioned. I swear thats all I've seen from PacersGuy since I started coming here... and even before I joined here, a Sixers fan that occasionally skims the Pistons board informed me of PacersGuy's attitude on Darko.

I apologize for the previous poster, he made a broad generalization, and a more directed insult would have been better.

-Chris.

Pacers Fan · 06-05-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWoj

Nah, just the ones that come on our forum only to put down one of our players every time he is mentioned. I swear thats all I've seen from PacersGuy since I started coming here... and even before I joined here, a Sixers fan that occasionally skims the Pistons board informed me of PacersGuy's attitude on Darko.

Try looking through his posts. He's actually complemented the Pistons many times.

P33r~ · 06-05-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

So not being a Pistons fan makes your opinion worthless and you unintelligent?

i think kamego said that incase pacerguys opinion would be mistakenly thought of as the general perspective of a pistons fan... if that made sense.

And yeah it's nice having pacersguy give more well-rounded responses in reference to the pistons nowadays. Seeing a lot more compliments than i should be seeing from him

**ChrisWoj** · 06-05-2005, 01:10 AM

I shall do so tomorrow morning before I disc golf... I had it pointed out to me and he had a rep beforehand, so I am biased. I will admit that, likely I am wrong... easy enough to admit. I'll check it out, and hopefully his reputation amongst myself and a select few is undeserved. Since I am willing to trust Pacers Fan, I apologize to you in advance PacersGuy.

-Chris.

**DetBNyce** · 06-05-2005, 05:49 AM

Pacersguy's last 10 post or so have been complimentary to the Pistons, I have no idea what's going on with him, maybe he's sick. Anyways it's good to see.

Copper · 06-05-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ

Pacersguy's last 10 post or so have been complimentary to the Pistons, I have no idea what's going on with him, maybe he's sick. Anyways it's good to see.

My sentiments exactly. Someone call 911

hirschmanz · 06-05-2005, 08:20 AM

back to darko, what gets my goat about the whole situation is that they could have selected none other than dwyane wade with that 2nd pick, the very man who is giving them such a hard time in the ECF. He wouldn't get the same playing time, nor would his skills have developed so quickly (or maybe they would), but the worst that could happen is that he's not playing for the heat right now. Any thoughts?

gelf123 · 06-05-2005, 08:22 AM

Darko doesn't deserve any more minutes than he already gets. Theres nothing to argue about. It's the pistons fault for making him the #1 pick and watching him go down the drain and not improve year by year. Honestly, wheres the kid headed? Why don't they trade him or something to a team that might actually play him? I'm sure he has some sort of skill. You rarely see a first draft pick go and sit on the bench for a season.

hirschmanz · 06-05-2005, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gelf123

Darko doesn't deserve any more minutes than he already gets. Theres nothing to argue about. It's the pistons fault for making him the #1 pick and watching him go down the drain and not improve year by year. Honestly, wheres the kid headed? Why don't they trade him or something to a team that might actually play him? I'm sure he has some sort of skill. You rarely see a first draft pick go and sit on the bench for a season.

don't forget, gelfand the great, that Darko was indeed the number 2 pick. The pistons' choice for that pick was anyone but lebron. Darko wasn't quite what I was thinking about, but hey. For the Eastern Conference number one seed the year before to get the number 2 pick in the draft excited lots of fans, but darko?

He's got more rings than the rest of that rookie class.

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