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No weakness in our line of centers. Jeff Foster's one of the best rebounders in the leauge, especially offensively. He can guard the league's premier big men as proved by his historical play on Tim Duncan. He's also a pretty good free throw shooter for a big. Scott Pollard can come in an guard the super big guys that Jeff can't, i.e, Shaq with a little help from the PF. He's also a rebounder and can hit midrang J. Now, Indiana doesn't need scoring from their center because they have it from the PG, SG, SF, and PF, spots, but if for some reason they want to go big, they have David Harrison to hit the baby hook or jam it. He's also an excellent shot blocker.

Offense - check
Defense - check
Rebounding - check
Shot Blocking - check
Free Throw Shooting - check
Hustle - check
Quantity- check

Where's the weakness?

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Foster's horrible at FT's.

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Well you guys must be easily satisfied if you think that the Center position has no weaknesses. But I'm assuming that since you think the Center position doesn't have any weaknesses you must think the Seattle Sonics don't have any weaknesses at their position neither right? Because they have a ton of bigs who can do all the things you put on your "list".

I never thought I'd see the day that the Pacers Center rotation and the Sonics Center rotation doesn't have any weaknesses in today's NBA.

You said you have a ton of big bodies that you can throw at Shaq, somehow justifying that you'd be able to stop him. Just realize that the Kings and the Blazers had big bodies to throw at Shaq as well...it just doesn't matter. And I realize that Shaq isn't the player he once was, but he's still better than any of the big bodies you can try to throw at him. Your bigs are simply not good enough.

As for the Kings and Pacers comparison. When I was comparing them, I had no intention of comparing there defense to one another because I'm not trying to compare style of play. I was simply comparing them in terms of the success they have had in the league, and I think it's a fair comparison. They will always be a good playoff team who never beats the more elite teams.

Oh, and by the way. Pollard is a horrendous free throw shooter. Unless, again, you are just easily satisfied with crap.

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PacersguyUSA

Vitaly Potapenko and Jerome James average nothing near Foster's numbers, and bring little to the table compared to what Foster, Pollard, Harrison and Davis do in terms of quality and more distinctly, quantity.

Pacers

Offense - check
Defense - check
Rebounding - check
Shot Blocking - check
Free Throw Shooting - check
Hustle - check
Quantity- check

Sonics

Offense - no
Defense - check
Rebounding - check
Shot Blocking - check
Free Throw Shooting - check
Hustle - check
Quantity- no

You're missing two.

Obviously Shaq is better than all our centers, but Scott Pollard has shown he can slow him a little (17.5 AVG, Pacers won 2/3). Anyway, "Vs. Shaq" isn't really a category that should define centers. As the Pistons showed, it doesn't have much to do with beating the Heat.

I never said that the center positions is a strength or anything, that would be the point guard, small forward, and powerforward spots, but it's definately not a weakness and one of the better center groups in the leaugue.

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So what is our weakness at Center?

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Well for one, there isn't one good passing big man on your team. Not to mention none of them can score. You see, it doesn't matter if you don't need them to score for you. The fact is that they can't. I consider that a weakness whether it's necessary or not. Jeff Foster is your highest scoring big man with a whopping 7 points per game.

Is it okay that Amare Stoudemire doesn't have to put up big rebounding numbers just because Shawn Marion does? That logic is flawed and shouldn't be justified.

It's not that the Pacer Centers don't have any weaknesses, because they do. It's that you don't need them to excel in certain areas because other members of the team already fill those roles. Don't confuse the two.

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And how do you know that? Just because the ball isn't run through them doesn't mean they aren't good passing big men. Scot Pollard and Jeff Foster are both very good at grabbing rebounds and tipping them out to a teammate.

David Harrison is our best scorer at Center. Foster, Pollard, and Davis can all hit an occasional jumper or dunk.

None of our Centers played big minutes this year. You can't really use stats to argue for/against the Pacers, anyway. With all the suspensions and injuries this year, no one has played consistant minutes. Everyone on our team started a game last year with the exception of John Edwards.

Amare Stoudamire isn't a role player. He's not supposed to play a small role and help players around him. His job is to score.

Our Centers may have weaknesses individually, but if you don't need a Center to score for your team to be successful, it's not a team weakness.

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Jermaine O'neal is a good passing big, and Jeff Foster is a good passer off offensive boards.

Jermaine O'neal and David Harrison.

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Come to think of it guys, you've convinced me the Pacers have the best front court in the league. You are set, you don't even need to worry about that position. Ever. Can I come to your parade?

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LOL at being a good passer off rebounds...like that's all the facets of passing that make a big man a great passer. There's much more to it than that fellas.

Yah, O'neal is a good scorer obviously. But he's a Power Forward even if he can play the Center position.

And David Harrison is not a good scorer. LOL. Unless you think Zaza Pachulia is a good scorer as well. Seeing as him and Harrison score the about same amount of points with about the same amount of minutes.

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It's not a weakness though. If the ball is in Foster's hands, I'm not worried that he'll make stupid pass like Rip Hamilton or something.

This is true, but he's listed as a F/C and I think he plays enough C minutes to warrant that listing.

I've seen enough dunks, hooks, and Js from Harrison to believe the contrarily.

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I'd have to agree with you. The combo of Artest and O'neal automatically put the front court among the league's elite, with Foster complementing them nicely.

The Pacers haven't had a weak center since I've followed them, from Smits to O'neal, to Miller, then to Foster. From what I've seen of David Harrison, I think the future is looking good there as well.

I'm pretty sure the Pacers will win the championship in the 05-06 season, barring any huge adversities of course.

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