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rainman · 12-19-2005, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

i really think darko can be good. He got a heavy dose of a Larry Brown beat down. He needs a change of venue...Utah maybe

i agree, the home faithful will say they dont need to play him and they dont need to do anything but i think a player,especially a top draft pick, needs at some point to play. i'm not sure what utah would be willing to give up, maybe filler and a high draft pick. a matt harpring would probably be a great addition of the bench.

**Tom** · 12-19-2005, 06:03 PM

That would be a good deal all around. Piston need someone to do what they are waiting for Delfino to do...score off the bench.

froggyvk · 12-19-2005, 08:22 PM

Darko needs to be put in a Zaza Pachulia situation.

rainman · 12-20-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by froggyvk

Darko needs to be put in a Zaza Pachulia situation.

sounds like a good title for a movie, kind of amazes me that on a monday night in late december the kid cant get off the bench in a 56 minute game. no wonder he doesnt give a ****. i thought it might change when brown left but its the same scenario, give him spotty pt followed by little or no pt and then ***** when he doesnt set the world on fire. just trade the guy this is a lose lose situtation for both parties. dont you have any connections there froggy.

ian · 12-21-2005, 02:43 PM

I think Darko will be getting PT again soon, this is just a little bump in the road. No need to change teams

NuffE · 12-21-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman

its like a sidebar to the whole team success there. i think its safe to say he isnt going to respond to sitting for 2 hours and then go diving for loose balls when he gets in the game, he's not that type of a player, i guess the question is would melo or bosh or wade be any differant or would they pout about things not going their way. i think as an organization they have to be getting close to the point where they can say is there a guy out there that can make this team better for the next couple of years that it would make sense to move darko for. i still think there are a lot of teams that would want darko to play the post, teams like new orleans,atlanta,golden state, maybe even phoenix and seatte. i think its time for the pistons to trade the guy, this soap opera is getting pretty worn out.

I feel if hes not putting in 100.10% everytime he steps on the floor, he could be a bad cell for the pistons roster.

Stefan Nellemoes · 01-03-2006, 06:46 AM

Hey guys, Nets fan here - posting at your section for the first time.

I am big Darko lover (not his lover, though), and I really want him to get some playing time - the sooner the better.

I didn't watch the game in which he played terrible - but, when you get 1-2 minutes every 3rd and 4th game, it's hard to maintain the passion and energy. It isn't funny sitting on the bench, and all of a sudden, your name is called and you have to deliver right away.

Flip can talk all day long about how he was when he was 20. I just wonder. Did Flip also get one full game over the entire season, and playing thousands of miles away from home, in a young age?

I still believe that Darko has what it takes to be a force in the league - he just needs playing time, but more important, he needs Flip and the rest of the coaching staff, to have faith in him.

Until then, the kidd can't deliver. Skills or no skills.

**Austin Kent** · 01-03-2006, 06:50 AM

I think all of us here are kind of unsure what to think of Darko Milicic. I thikn it's become apparent that, although Darko may still turn out to be a good player, it won't happen in Detroit.

cambyblockingyou · 01-03-2006, 09:51 AM

He plays lazy in 2nd quarters also, not just garbage time. No excuse for that.

**Brian** · 01-17-2006, 10:03 AM

Here is another Darko update

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Q . Almost halfway through his third season, can we officially call Darko Milicic a bust?

A . No. If the Pistons were to release him today or trade him, thus essentially acknowledging they've given up on him, then, yeah, you could call him a bust.

They haven't given up on him. He still is only 20. He still has NBA skill, and he does some things (quickness, footwork and passing skills) that most guys his size can't do.

There is still some serious upside to this guy. I don't think he's ever going to be a star, and given he was a No. 2 overall pick, most might use that and conclude he was a bust.

But I still see him having a long and somewhat productive career, perhaps one similar to that of a Rik Smits or Detlef Schrempf, guys who averaged around 14 points and eight rebounds over long careers.

The thing is, though, I don't think that will ever happen here.

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Q . Why do you say that?

A . Because there's just been a bad mix of expectation and immaturity and negativity for him here, and I don't think it's in his heart or mind to fight through it. I get the sense he is angling for a clean start somewhere else.

He didn't respond to Larry Brown's tough love, and he's not responding to Flip Saunders' kinder, gentler approach. What can you do? He doesn't play or practice with any real passion or sense of urgency.

You watch him during the three-on-three scrimmages at the end of practice, and he's just going through the motions. Established veterans such as Dale Davis and Lindsey Hunter are playing these scrimmages like their lives are on the line, really competing hard. Milicic, meanwhile, mostly stands around the perimeter, jacking up three-point shots, not bothering to get inside and mix it up under the basket.

He just seems resigned to the fact he never will be able to play a meaningful role on this team, and he's simply biding his time until his contract runs out.

Being a finesse player is not necessarily a fatal flaw. Being a perimeter-oriented 7-footer who can distribute the ball isn't always a bad thing, either. There are places where those types of attributes are welcomed and rewarded.

But not here. On a team of tough, hard-nosed players who grind night in and night out, Milicic's softer style just doesn't play very well -- not to the fans and not to his teammates.

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...601170384/1127

Copper · 01-17-2006, 02:04 PM

He is and continues to be his own worst enemy, he acts as though he is deserving of minutes. This is the fear in drafting such a young and inexperienced player. He didnt have to earn anything in college or the D league, now he just assumes he'll get the minutes because of his contract. I hope he takes note of what Delfino has done. Delfino spent the entire year being ridiculed and having his toughness questioned, he went home got himself together and has come back ready to explode in whatever minutes he is given.

**Austin Kent** · 01-17-2006, 02:53 PM

As much as I love Darko Milicic and I love the Detroit Pistons I have to say that I've finally grown tired of his attitude. I say trade him and trade him fast, see what we can get for him. I'm almost relieved that the general outlook on Darko is that he is a ***** as opposed to people thinking he is a bust, because as proven by New Jersey last year, teams are not afraid to make a move for players with no heart. I want to get rid of him before he becomes both a bust and a *****.

I'm always going to be a Darko Milicic fan, and I'd like to see him succeed but it's not going to happen here. Maybe he can get traded to Toronto and I won't have to root for anymore teams, here's hoping.

Charlie Brown · 01-20-2006, 06:40 AM

Trade Darko to NJ.

Filler and a first.

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