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MLKG · 01-21-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EHL

That's pretty short sighted. Darko has never shown any passion on the court, or any real intensity, especially lately. And his own coach is questioning that, as did Brown subtlely last season.

I've seen pretty much every minutes the guy has played in his career. The garbage ones and the real ones. In garbage time, he doesn't care. He never has, and he never will. When he gets in the game in meaningfull situations he does play hard and will mix it up with guys. He just doesn't get that chance very often.

**Austin Kent** · 01-21-2006, 05:04 PM

Kelvin Cato for Darko Milicic and Carlos Arroyo is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. If Joe Dumars ever considered this trade I would have effectively lost all faith in him, you wouldn't think it possible, but the idea of trading our two young prospects for Kelvin Cato is the lamest of the lame.

As far as the Blazer trade goes, no dice here. The only one that's even a possibility is the Outlaw trade, and that is solely because I want to see him dunk on somebody in a Pistons jersey. I don't see the benefit of trading Milicic for a first round pick either, especially if it's ours. There's no way the pick is better than 27 so what gives.

I've finally come to the conclusion that trading Milicic could be the best option, but we didn't hold on to him to give him up for the first piece of garbage somebody offers. Looking back on the Harrington trade, which I was opposed to, I would do it now in a second.

**MemphisX** · 01-22-2006, 04:23 AM

Lorenzen Wright, Bobby Jackson, 1st round pick

for

Darko and Carlos

ian · 01-22-2006, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike luvs KG

I've seen pretty much every minutes the guy has played in his career. The garbage ones and the real ones. In garbage time, he doesn't care. He never has, and he never will. When he gets in the game in meaningfull situations he does play hard and will mix it up with guys. He just doesn't get that chance very often.

This is pretty much true, though I think now and then he even shows intensity in garbage minutes -- like against the Knicks the other night. Maybe he's finally realizing that it's better to swallow your pride than wallow on the bench. Or not

Copper · 01-22-2006, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ian

This is pretty much true, though I think now and then he even shows intensity in garbage minutes -- like against the Knicks the other night. Maybe he's finally realizing that it's better to swallow your pride than wallow on the bench. Or not

I hope you are right, I saw the Knicks game and was also impressed with the energy he showed...but weve seen it before from him where he plays that way one game then plays horribly the next. I dont care if he hits a single shot when he gets in the game, as long as he plays with energy and shows some fire I think the rest will come.

rainman · 01-22-2006, 10:29 AM

i noticed a rumor of darko to new jersey that supposedly they have been interested in him. i dont know what he would give jersey that kristic doesnt give them although i think everyone would agree his upside is greater, is there anything there that detroit would want in return, maybe a richard jefferson who could give the pistons a great 6th man off the bench.?????

Copper · 01-22-2006, 11:53 AM

If there was any chance of picking up RJ I would be all over it, but the chances of them parting with him for Darko and any of our bench is slim and none. There is a better chance of Darko staying here and becoming the next Bill Russell.

**ChrisWoj** · 01-22-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper

If there was any chance of picking up RJ I would be all over it, but the chances of them parting with him for Darko and any of our bench is slim and none. There is a better chance of Darko staying here and becoming the next Bill Russell.

We missed our chance to get Richard Jefferson.

We drafted:

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Originally Posted by NBADRAFT.NET

Versatile forward with both a post and perimeter game..... Has very good potential...... A 6-10 player with the ability to put the ball on the floor, create off the dribble, and knock down jumpshots with range.

This was RJ:

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Originally Posted by NBADRAFT.NET

Not a great ball handler or passer but these skills are still developing. Shot can be inconsistent, and doesn't shoot well off the dribble. Statistics did not show continual improvement, granted the team around him improved, but the lack of development is a concern.

... God don't you just love hindsight?

-Chris.

SolidGuy3 · 01-22-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper

If there was any chance of picking up RJ I would be all over it, but the chances of them parting with him for Darko and any of our bench is slim and none. There is a better chance of Darko staying here and becoming the next Bill Russell.

I think Jefferson would want to start but he would be a great 6th man for us. The Pistons have
excellent chemistry right now. It seems like Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Wallace and Wallace have been playing with each other since they were wearing diapers.

rainman · 01-22-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Copper

If there was any chance of picking up RJ I would be all over it, but the chances of them parting with him for Darko and any of our bench is slim and none. There is a better chance of Darko staying here and becoming the next Bill Russell.

for jersey to get a darko and a delfino for jefferson would be a good move for both teams, vince carter gives the nets the flexibility to make a move, if they wanted they could play darko at the 4 and kristic at the 5, not sure if there is a two serbian rule in the nba(just kidding).

**ChrisWoj** · 01-22-2006, 02:15 PM

http://www.basketballboards.net/foru...d.php?t=235647

I wrote an article concerning the entire Darko situation. Feel free to go and discuss.

By the way... I'm the new Pistons Columnist here at BBB.net, as well as the new Detroit Tigers columnist! Yayness!

-Chris.

NISMO · 01-23-2006, 03:39 PM

who would you want

Team Mao · 01-24-2006, 02:04 AM

Hey,
Look, I think everyone in the league is know fully aware that if Darko succeeds, it won't be with Detroit. The guy seems to hate the Pistons orginization for having to sit on the bench for the past few seasons. I understand why he has been on the bench, because the team is competing for championships every year, but never in the history of #2 picks has one of them had to sit on the bench for his first two seasons.

So here is my idea, maybe not what you're looking for but give me some feedback, let me know:

TO sends
Mike James, Jalen Rose, Morris Peterson, Rafael Araujo, Denver 1st, TO 2nd
Receives
Penny Hardaway, Darko, Nate Robinson

Detroit Sends
Darko, Arroyo
Receives
MoPete, Mike James, Araujo, TO 2nd

Why for Detroit? MoPete gives you a solid backup at the 2/3 position who plays good defence and can shoot the 3 really well, roughly the same salary as Arroyo but shorter deal. Mike James gives you a great backup point who can get hot really fast and plays good d. Araujo gives you a big body underneath for whatever minutes might be available, he's on rookie contract for a year longer than Darko and he'd probably re-sign with Detroit, something that Darko won't do. Detroit can re-sign James if they want or deal him in a S&T. They get a high second round pick, which they can maybe use on a Euro prospect and let him develop there rather than bring in a late first rounder and have him sit on the bench and not play while collecting a paycheck.

NY sends
Hardaway, Robinson
Receives
Jalen Rose, Arroyo, Denver 1st

md6655321 · 01-24-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Team Mao

Hey,

Detroit Sends
Darko, Arroyo
Receives
MoPete, Mike James, Araujo, TO 2nd

Thats just plain disgusting. I would trade away all three of those players for nothing just to have them off the team. I suppose Mike James is cool, but Arroyo is way better. Mo "score 81 on me" Pete doesnt do anything for me either, I'll take a young Delfino over him. And Araujo would be out of the league if wasnt for his rookie contract.

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