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I don't doubt that he's talented, but he's had several years to stop taking insane shots and he hasn't. You have a point about his situation, and I do think he could be a real asset if he weren't the only one who could create shots half the time. A change of scenery could help, but I don't know how by how much.
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We may never know that because he isn't going to develop playing for Zeke. Thats just a bad situation.
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04-18-2007, 11:27 PM
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Fair enough. Isiah seems to be better at getting talent rather than developing it. David Lee made a big jump this year but a lot of that seems to stem from of his own work ethic than anything Isiah did. I still find Crawford frustrating because he's making the same kind of mistakes he was making at the beginning of his career.
You always have interesting things to say about players, so let's keep the ideas coming.
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04-18-2007, 11:32 PM
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Fair enough. Isiah seems to be better at getting talent rather than developing it. David Lee made a big jump this year but a lot of that seems to stem from of his own work ethic than anything Isiah did. I still find Crawford frustrating because he's making the same kind of mistakes he was making at the beginning of his career.
You always have interesting things to say about players, so let's keep the ideas coming.
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I think of all those players i mentioned above, Q Rich would be my favorite to add to the Pistons. He plays solid D, can shoot, and knows how to score. Contract is bad too and if you look at his stats you may have a jaw droper looking at how many shots he got with the Suns but he doesn't jack them up out of of the offense nearly as often as Crawford.
Interesting side note, Wilson Chandler also of DePaul decleared for the draft. If I am Joe D, I am working him out to see if I want him with the 2nd first rounder.
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04-18-2007, 11:40 PM
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Q can defend, rebounds very well for his position, and takes charges, that's always a plus. He's not an incredible shooter but he does end up shooting a lot from 3. It's a little better this year, and he does tend to shoot within the offense. Thing is, he has a good post game that's been underutilized by every team except the Clips. He has several ways to score, but I don't think he has much of a mid-range game. Also, there's the issue of his back. He's played well this year, but it's a risk still.
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04-18-2007, 11:43 PM
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Thats what we pay Arnie the big bucks for though. "Snake-oil salesman"
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Re: Would you do this trade?
How about this one guys?
PF/SF Tim THOMAS
SF/SG Mike MILLER
C/PF Davis or SF/PF SINGLETON or SG/SF Qinton ROSS
1st round pick'08
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c nazr
pf sheed
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04-22-2007, 09:01 PM
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How about this one guys?
PF/SF Tim THOMAS
SF/SG Mike MILLER
C/PF Davis or SF/PF SINGLETON or SG/SF Qinton ROSS
1st round pick'08
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pf sheed
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that is also a sh*tty trade
is this for a fantasy league or something?
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04-22-2007, 09:15 PM
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that is also a sh*tty trade
is this for a fantasy league or something?
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If your planning on blowing the team up, its interesting. Tim Thomas a guy Joe Dumars has always tried to get in one aspect or another. 1st round draft pick might be good. I am not high on Mohammad so I don't mind losing him but can you afford to replace Sheed?
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04-22-2007, 09:26 PM
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Not unless it's Thomas's contract year. Miller's a useful piece, and Ross isn't a bad stopper. I don't think that makes up for Sheed.
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04-22-2007, 10:44 PM
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Yeah. it's for a sim league. I'm just active in the trading. I havn't done anything yet though. If you guys want in the league lemme know there are some great teams open.
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Yeah. it's for a sim league. I'm just active in the trading. I havn't done anything yet though. If you guys want in the league lemme know there are some great teams open.
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this discussion makes a lot more sense now that I know it's for a sim league...
I was trying to figure out how you intended to do a trade for Crawford and Gadzuric when they're not even on the same team to begin with! that trade proposal was definitely not a 3-way trade idea 
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