pac4eva5

camby, a 1st, and we will forfeit every game we play against detroit. deal?

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Deke

im so wrong but you didnt explain why. i dont claim to have watched all his games. but what i did see was people severely overrating him. how can you be so great if you cant shoot,rebound,or play defense?

thats basically the skills you need to be a superstar...
and hes supposed to be dwayne wade? HA

pistons fans are delusional about their young talent. sure they have some decent role players but they think there will be no repercussion when billups,rip,and sheed fall off drastically in a year or two and that dumars will miraculously keep them in the title picture til the end of time with stuckey,amir,and samb being the cornerstones of this ''dream dynasty''.

its just dumb.

players might breakout but the pistons will get worse before they get better then they are today.

MLKG

You clearly haven't watched him play. His jump shot is not great, but it is further along than Wade's was his rookie year, and he's a very good rebounder for a point guard. I don't know where you got that from.

As a point guard he makes a lot of nice passes, but he's not a probing water-bug guard so he's not going to get high assist numbers. He can definately get the ball to the open guy though.

He has similar game to players like Dwyane Wade and Baron Davis, but doesn't quite have their athleticism.

Deke

my ***. how good a shooter can you be when you cant even shoot .400?
as a rookie dwade scored 16 ppg on .465 and yes i know he attacked the paint like he always has BUT thats supposed to be stuckeys great asset as well and his effeciency/stats are not even close even per 36 mins.

A VERY GOOD REBOUNDER? WHAT?

dude plays 20 mpg, hes 6,5 and gets 2 boards a game. thats ****ing pathetic. since when is that very good?

he is an average passer.

and he doesnt have their athleticism,effeciency,scoring ability,rebounding ability,or defensive skills but im wrong?......

Goubot

This is pretty ridiculous outrage over a comparison no one here has made. He drew comparisons to Wade (and a lot of the comparisons were to Wade coming out of Marquette) from some sites when he has drafted because he was aggressive attacking the basket and is a decent passer, but a poor man's Wade is probably his ceiling. He played 19 minutes and got 2.3 rebounds a game. Since you brought up per 36 minute stats, his rebounding rate is actually better than Wade's and Baron Davis', and it's certainly above average for a point guard.

Looking at his overall numbers ignores the fact that he had to make his debut in the middle of the season amidst a set rotation after recovering from a broken hand, so he had a rougher adjustment period than most. In the last two months, he hit his stride.

He has shown some signs, but he's obviously an incomplete product. His jumper needs work, he needs to learn to finish his drives, he's not a great passer, and while he can be a solid defender at times, he wavers now and then and sometimes gets lost on rotations. I don't think anyone is seriously making him out to be anything more than he is.

Deke

the fact is most detroit fans look at him like hes the savior to their future. they overate the **** out of him more then any other fans do for any rookie.

SHEED!

When the hell did we ever say hes "the savior" to our future? If anything we have overrated Amir johnson. I don't recall anyone ever calling him the next dwade but why do you care if we speak highly of Stuckey. He has shown alot of shines of being a good player. So quit the trolling when you clearly haven't watched many games at all.

Goubot

Funny that you should speak up for Pistons fans in general and then refuse to listen when actual Pistons fans speak up. No fans I know, on the internet or in real life, have called him the team's savior. The Detroit media hasn't called him a savior. For most of the Pistons fans I know, there is guarded excitement over players like Stuckey and Amir, both of whom have shown flashes that they can become productive players for the team, and they may become starters in a few years. Right now, they're useful but limited bench players that I hope can produce well enough to spell the starters in these playoffs.

ChrisWoj

Would you quit talking out of your ***, your nose is going to leave you if it has to smell the **** spewing from your mouth.

First a note: I will not compare his skillset to Dwyane Wade's. He isn't Dwyane Wade. For you to even imply that any of us have ever said he is the next Dwyane Wade shows that you don't actually know what any of us have ever had to say about Rodney Stuckey.

1. Rodney Stuckey's shooting percentage - In shorter minutes, coming off of a broken wrist Rodney Stuckey's shooting was abysmal. He shot 35% over the close of December and into January. However if you look at his numbers once he began to work his way into regular rotation minutes, beginning with the start of the month of February, and as he began to take more shots per night and play more minutes that percentage increased to 44%.

2. Rodney Stuckey's rebounding - Again we're looking at a player that began his season coming off of a broken wrist. Through December/January his rebounding numbers were poor at best, at only 1.6 per night in limited minutes. Again we see these numbers increase as Stuckey is introduced to regular rotation minutes and a defined roll, and again: as he came back into a rhythm after injury. His numbers in those months jumped to 2.7 rebounds per night. Of course, this does not look spectacular but his minutes per game were at only 21. If you extrapolate out to 48 minutes that's 6.1 rebounds per. Not superstar level, but definitely not poor numbers. That would put him in the top 12 among all point guards in the NBA (note that since he is a backup playing lower minutes I allowed for the numbers to include ALL point guards and not just starters to make my numbers realistic and not unnecessarily gaudy).

3. Rodney Stuckey's athleticism - All I can say is... the **** you been watching?

Come back when you know what you're talking about kid.

-Chris.

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Deke

nice excuses. i should just blame ben gordon not getting 25 ppg and an allstar bid on his injuries and slow start?

ChrisWoj

So, basically, I tear up your ENTIRE argument and make you look like a total joker, and thats your best response? You've really got to learn to debate if you're going to come in here and try to argue with me. I not only backed up his game by proving that he was performing better once he was back into a rhythm and fully healed up. I showed that as he got put into a regular rotation spot his numbers solidified and he played very well. This proves that he has the rebounding ability (for a point guard) to hold his own, the ability to get good shots and shoot a solid percentage, and the fact is that his athleticism is one of his strengths.

Additionally since you're wondering about Ben Gordon: He wouldn't be a 25ppg scorer no matter what in the system that the Bulls run, but yes you can blame the fact that he wasn't a 20ppg player on his injuries. He sprained his wrist in early February, derailed what was a promising season as the Bulls kept his minutes low to prevent further injury (although he continued to perform at an efficient level).

Do you ever know what you're talking about?


-Chris.

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Goubot

Not worth it, man. Given Deke's posting history and the argumentative ability he has shown here, it's pretty clear he's not interested in discussion or anything close to it.

Deke

you didnt blow up my argument you just gave excuses for why he sucked....

he had injuries and started off like crap. and you should trade rip so he can play more? ha...

your basically saying well if he played 48 mpg his stats would be better. name me one nba player who plays 48 mpg...

ChrisWoj