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Old 05-07-2008, 08:39 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: I want to trade Rip.

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1.well my sentiments for him being overrated was based on people saying they should trade rip so he can play more.

2.He played decent. exactly. decent. people acting like hes a future allstar already when half the season he was HORRIBLE. **** happens in the nba like injuries. cant just make excuses for why every player plays poorly....

3.if chuck hayes played 48 mpg he'd be the leagues leading rebounder but thats another one of those stupid what ifs...

you cant just say well stuckey would get 6 boards if he played 48 min per game. 1 no one plays that much and 2 theres something called fatigue.

every 5 minutes stuckey averaged a rebound. thats bad for anyone 6,5. ben gordon ****ing outrebounded him lol.
And he would most likely also foul out...
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:32 PM   #47 (permalink)
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1.well my sentiments for him being overrated was based on people saying they should trade rip so he can play more.
One person conjectured this, and you decided to berate an entire fanbase over it. It wasn't "people saying" it was one person making a conjecture and the rest of us telling him it was a dumb idea. Unfortunately you chose not to actually read anything anybody actually said and base your entire assertion on the first post in the thread.

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2.He played decent. exactly. decent. people acting like hes a future allstar already when half the season he was HORRIBLE. **** happens in the nba like injuries. cant just make excuses for why every player plays poorly....
Clearly you don't understand what injuries do. You see, when somebody gets hurt it means they can't operate at full speed. When someone can't operate at full speed, he will inevitably play at a rate which is lower than his optimal level. When a person is coming off of an injury it is expected that he will play poorly. You can excuse a person when he is playing poorly coming off of an injury, because that is exactly what it is: someone coming off of an injury. The only time when a player's play coming off of injury can be conjectured as his optimal level is when that player is injured frequently (ie: Yao Ming, Marcus Camby, etc.). When a player is only rarely injury, the time he spend becoming acclimated to regular playing time can not be counted against him as he is not playing to his actual level. In this case Rodney Stuckey is better than the statistics say overall, and if you look at the more recent months you begin to understand the level of play he will achieve over a full season. If he is injured on a yearly basis, then yes it will become clear that we can conjecture that his optimal potential is poor because it is a normal thing. However he does not have a history of injuries, so we can not do this.

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3.if chuck hayes played 48 mpg he'd be the leagues leading rebounder but thats another one of those stupid what ifs...

you cant just say well stuckey would get 6 boards if he played 48 min per game. 1 no one plays that much and 2 theres something called fatigue.

every 5 minutes stuckey averaged a rebound. thats bad for anyone 6,5. ben gordon ****ing outrebounded him lol.
Per 48s however can be used to show whether or not a player has the potential to do something. If a player has a high per 48, it can be stated that he is going to be able to do something with proficiency. A player that can not rebound is not going to have a high per 48. What this is, is normalizing statistics. It is a way of making comparisons and creating accurate impressions based on quantifiable numbers. It is not a concrete statistic. Does my number tell me that he is a better rebounding point man than Eddie House? No, thats not what a per 48 number does. What it does tell me is that he has a decent proficiency for rebounding. It doesn't tell me he's one of the best by any means, but what it does tell me is that the ability to be a very good rebounding point man is there and he's far from poor in that category.



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