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The more I watch Stuckey. The more I realize that our team needs a true penetrator. It's something that has been missing from our team for awhile now. Sliding Stuckey into the starting 5 would give our team a whole new look. I would really like to see Rip be the one to go. For what exactly is tough. We need a big man, but they just aren't easy to come by.

So I guess what I am trying to say is... We need more penetrating and less watching Rip drop one into the net off of a screen. It's getting too easy to guard, people are starting to catch up to Rip. It's getting very predictable.

Maybe something along the lines of Rip to New York for their pick and David Lee?

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SHEED!

Stuckey is hot and all... but I see no reason to get rid of Rip. That is madness! If anything Rips game seems to be geting better with age, he has made great strides on defense and has developed a consistant 3 point shot. Another thing why would we want David Lee when we have Amir developing and Maxiell?

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Well I don't think that Maxiell will be here much longer. It's obvious that Amir will be taking over. I just think David Lee fits all too well in Detroit.

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SHEED!

Why do you say that? He would be a good fit... but not worth Rip unless we are rebuilding. We have enough people on our team to score easy baskets, imo its just a matter of Flip Saunders to stop sucking as a coach and for Rasheed to man up and go down low.

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I dunno. I just think our offense is all too predictable. We saw last year what happens when people shut down Chauncey. Teams are catching up to Rip. I really want a slasher in the line-up.

Rasheed is a whole different topic

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SHEED!

Fair enough, but I think that is a coaching problem tbh, and I think the added rest this year will allow Rip and Chauncey to show up these playoffs instead of vanishing from the face of the earth.

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Giving them rest while the Zoo Crew takes over will be quite positive as well. There are a lot of pieces that have to come together for us to succeed this year. Things have got to change if they don't though... Big targets on Flip, Sheeds post game, and the rest of the starters showing up.

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ChrisWoj

Ruff, I'm going to be honest you seem to be more of a proponent of change in general than one trade in particular. Trade this on the draft day, trade Rip, allow Maxiell to walk... etc. You seem pretty set on the fact that the Pistons as they are are not good enough. Kind of depressing I'm going to be honest: I love where we are.

Rip Hamilton isn't our primary playmaker. He may be a leading scorer, but he does what he needs to do very well. He shoots a high percentage, works without the ball, plays defense... you can't ask much more of him. If teams were catching on to his game he wouldn't be averaging 49% from the field, 44% from beyond the arc. He's doing very well right now.

Watch Stuckey carefully and you'll see that his true value as a slasher comes when Billups is off the floor and he can take over as the primary ballhandler. When he is on the floor with Billups he isn't nearly as good at running without the ball as Rip is.

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Hamilton's overall numbers are down this year, but a lot of that is because he had a weak start of the season. Since then, his production has been on par with the rest of his Pistons career, and his percentages have even been higher. There isn't any real evidence that other players have figured him out, really. It would be nice to have someone in the starting lineup other than Billups who can reliably get to the line.

I think that Stuckey in his current role is perfect for now. I don't see him as much of an option at shooting guard, especially as a starter. He's been at his best running the offense of the second unit and creating for himself if need be. He's not great playing off the ball with Billups because his jumper is weak and his strengths are marginalized.

David Thorpe recently wrote a piece saying that Stuckey should work to play like Deron Williams, who punishes smaller guards inside. I think he'll eventually be able to play with a similar level of toughness, but he's not there yet, and he probably won't be doing that against shooting guards.

David Lee is a good piece, but I'm not convinced that he's much better than Maxiell, if at all. He's a better rebounder and hits the offensive board enough that he gets points on tip-ins (which explains his high percentages), but he's an inferior defender. I'd take the David Lee of last year over Maxiell this year since that was just crazy efficiency and rebounding, but he may have been over his head there. Lots of Knicks fans like Lee and they have a GM who isn't a complete idiot now (meaning that he should recognize that Lee's one of the only Knicks worth keeping around), so I doubt they bite on this.

I'm sure that, if it came down to it, the Pistons could get better value for Rip anyway.

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Why would New York give up their pick AND David Lee for Rip Hamilton, when the front office wants to rebuild through the draft?

You have to THINK when making trade ideas. David Lee isn't even available by himself, much less packaged with what is currently the 5th pick?

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Luke Walton?

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just brainstorming

camby for hamilton?

i dont know anything about these 2 teams so its probably a stupid thought

denver would put K-mart in at C and nene at PF

denver gets that guard to compliment AI

detroit gets a top 5 defensive player

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I love our team as well. I just like trading players and making up trades

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Kekai

I was going to start a new thread, but thought I'd just ask in here. Will Rip ever stop wearing that mask? I think it needs to go already.<