[TwinkieFoot]

Originally Posted by silverpaw1786

twinkie, you are more of a homer than the bulls fans. Noone wants zach randolph's fat ***. He is garbage and is not going to get you Sheed in return. Wait until the trading deadline and you may have a prayer that some team is willing to sacrifice chemistry for a shot at the playoffs

Dude, hop off my sac. If you didn't notice, the Pistons sound like a team willing to sacrifice winning now for a shot at doing so in the future. Randolph has some drawbacks in his game but so does every young player. Simple things like defense and passing out of double teams are certainly things that can be improved. Things like scoring the basketball in the post and rebounding are the two hardest things to do in basketball and both of them Zach do exceptionally well. He's a better project that any other young player you could bring in via draft or trade.

[Ruff Draft]

The fact that I may be warming up to a trade for Randolph sickens me.

If a trade with Denver is to happen, we'll have to take home all their garbage contracts. K-Mart/Camby and Nene. I still hope everyday I wake up and see that deal has been completed.

[TwinkieFoot]

Originally Posted by Ruff Draft

The fact that I may be warming up to a trade for Randolph sickens me.

If a trade with Denver is to happen, we'll have to take home all their garbage contracts. K-Mart/Camby and Nene. I still hope everyday I wake up and see that deal has been completed.

Welcome to the reality of rebuilding my friend. To be perfectly honest, you could do a lot worse than Kenyon Martin and Nene in terms of bad contract. Both of those guys are productive when healthy and both are relatively young to be of some use both now and do the road.

An interesting deal for you guys would be a 3 way trade between the Knicks, Pistons and Nuggets. You guys still give up Billups, Wallace, Prince, McDyess, Affallo and the 29th but get back Carmelo Anthony, Nene, Martin and cash incentives from the Knicks. The Nuggets get all the Pistons in the trade aside from Affallo and Wallace but get Zach Randolph who they had interest in during the trade deadline. This deal would be perfect.

The Nuggets get their championship supporting cast but still have a 25 year old Zach Randolph to show for giving up on a 24 year old Carmelo Anthony; some time with true professionals should help Randolph both on and off the court. He definately alleviates any scoring problems the Nuggets would have down low after the trade.

The Pistons get there franchise player and a decent supporting cast too boot. Realistically, a starting lineup of Stuckey, Hamilton, Melo, Martin and Nene should still be playoff caliber in the East. Bad move giving up Flip Saunders who could have done a lot with this interesting cast of players.

The Knicks get the financial flexibility they been searching for in addition to Affallo who is a solid young role playr and an additional pick in this years draft. I doubt we keep Rasheed unless we make moves for players to win now like Michael Redd, Kirk Hinrich and/or James Posey.

[Pistons]

This guy is worthless.

[Austin Kent]

Picking up Zach Randolph would simply kill this franchise. Joe Dumars isn't stupid.

[Austin Kent]

Originally Posted by MLKG

It doesn't make any sense that Denver would even be taking phone calls about Carmelo. But supposedly they are, which to me is a red flag. Do they know something everybody doesn't?

I'm reminded of an article Sam Smith wrote after the recent Josh Howard and Joakihm Noah incidents about how alcohol, and not marijuana, was the real drug of abuse in the NBA.

He claimed there were high profile players in the NBA with major drinking problems that teams and agents know about but are kept under the rug because the teams don't want them to lose trade value.

Coincidence that the rumours of Denver taking offers for Carmelo come shortly after he's arrested at 4:00 in the morning for drunk driving with a BAC twice the legal limit after a bad game?

I don't know that it is indicative of a greater problem, but the mere fact that he may even be on the market is a red flag that something else may be going on.

That's another point that's entirely true. We only really see a sliver of what goes on behind the scenes with these franchises. That being said, to we even really know if he was for sure on the table?

If Anthony did have a drinking problem, I still wouldn't drop interest in him. It sounds naive to say that there's a chance it wouldn't be an issue while he's in Detroit, but I really believe it. Like a player with chronic knee injuries, under a strict rehabilitation, recovery - though difficult - is possible.

He's young and it's hard to think the Nuggets have given up hope on him. This isn't Vin Baker we're talking about.

So maybe that's it, it really could be, but then again it could be anything.

[DANNY]

what if the knicks offer their 1st round pick + randolph for expiring?

[Ruff Draft]

Originally Posted by DANNY

what if the knicks offer their 1st round pick + randolph for expiring?

Tempting...

[Ruff Draft]

Let's try to keep mostly everything in this thread relating to the off-season. The draft thread still serves it's purpose though.

How do you guys feel abotu James Jones? We don't have a bulls-eye shooter off the bench, and he could come to the D on the relatively cheap.

[Ruff Draft]

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