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06-04-2008, 02:25 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
Carlos Boozer?
Tayshaun + McDyess for Boozer?
Billups
Rip
MLE
Boozer
Rasheed
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PG: Allen Iverson, Rodney Stuckey, Will Bynum
SG: Rip Hamilton, Arron Afflalo
SF: Tayshaun Prince, Walter Herrmann, Walter Sharpe
PF: Kwame Brown, Jason Maxiell, Amir Johnson
C: Rasheed Wallace
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06-04-2008, 02:59 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace could be the most likely players to be dealt by the Pistons this offseason, according to a report in The Detroit Free Press.
Team president Joe Dumars said on Tuesday that he will shake up the team's core this summer.
Dumars wants to renew the team's defensive philosophy, with Billups being the team's worst starting defender. Point guard is also a coveted position, and the team believes Rodney Stuckey can be an elite option.
Wallace's contract is up next summer, which makes him a nice trade piece for Detroit. Franchises looking to cut costs in the future would love to acquire him for that reason, as would a contender looking to push towards a title in 2008.
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Via The Detroit Free Press
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2008-2009 Detroit Pistons
PG: Allen Iverson, Rodney Stuckey, Will Bynum
SG: Rip Hamilton, Arron Afflalo
SF: Tayshaun Prince, Walter Herrmann, Walter Sharpe
PF: Kwame Brown, Jason Maxiell, Amir Johnson
C: Rasheed Wallace
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06-04-2008, 03:37 PM
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#48 (permalink)
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by Ruff Draft
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if that article hold any truth, then boozer is the last guy we should try to acquire. he doesnt add anything on the defensive end and he's an overrated offensive player.
if we really need to trade tayshaun, a good trading partner would be the lakers. how about odom and farmar for prince and fillers?
with bynum coming back next year, theres alot of doubt of whether or not odom can play SF. this trade would really help both teams IMO.
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06-04-2008, 03:46 PM
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urh?!
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by DANNY
if that article hold any truth, then boozer is the last guy we should try to acquire. he doesnt add anything on the defensive end and he's an overrated offensive player.
if we really need to trade tayshaun, a good trading partner would be the lakers. how about odom and farmar for prince and fillers?
with bynum coming back next year, theres alot of doubt of whether or not odom can play SF. this trade would really help both teams IMO.
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Yeah I am not really a big fan of boozer for those reasons as well. I would be ok with Odom other than the fact he that he seems maddening inconsistent.
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06-04-2008, 06:29 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by DANNY
if that article hold any truth, then boozer is the last guy we should try to acquire. he doesnt add anything on the defensive end and he's an overrated offensive player.
if we really need to trade tayshaun, a good trading partner would be the lakers. how about odom and farmar for prince and fillers?
with bynum coming back next year, theres alot of doubt of whether or not odom can play SF. this trade would really help both teams IMO.
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The Lakers likely aren't going to deal Odom before the season starts, especially if they beat Boston. However, it is a possibility that he gets dealt at some point during the season.
Farmar would not go with him, though, as the team views him as our starter maybe even as early as next season.
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PG: Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar
SG: Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic, Sun Yue
SF: Vladimir Radmanovic, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm, D.J. Mbenga
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06-04-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by Damian Necronamous
The Lakers likely aren't going to deal Odom before the season starts, especially if they beat Boston. However, it is a possibility that he gets dealt at some point during the season.
Farmar would not go with him, though, as the team views him as our starter maybe even as early as next season.
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i feel that certain sacrifice has to be made in order to acquire a bigger piece to the puzzle. prince is the ideal SF for the triangle offense. he can stretch the defense with his outside shooting, take his man off the dribble, and take advantage of mismatches down low with his length. also add to the fact that he's one of the best perimeter defenders in the league... less pressure on kobe to guard the best player on the other team.
dont forget that prince makes like 4 million less than odom. it's going to easier for dr. buss to maintain his starting five when the fourth option on the team is making 9 million instead of 13.
farmar undoubtly has amazing potential but he's been very inconsistent throughout the season and also throughout the playoffs. I dont know if phil is ready to hand him over the starting PG just yet. as a laker fan, i know where you're coming from though, however, most NBA teams out there arent sold that farmar is starter material. it will ludicrious if he was the dealbreaker for this deal.
in terms of talent, odom and prince might be on same level. but when it comes to value to a team, prince undoubtly has the edge due to his skillsets. thats why i feel the lakers should give up atless one worthy prospect (farmar in this case) to compensate for the difference in value.
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06-04-2008, 10:06 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by DANNY
if that article hold any truth, then boozer is the last guy we should try to acquire. he doesnt add anything on the defensive end and he's an overrated offensive player.
if we really need to trade tayshaun, a good trading partner would be the lakers. how about odom and farmar for prince and fillers?
with bynum coming back next year, theres alot of doubt of whether or not odom can play SF. this trade would really help both teams IMO.
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Like every other player on the trading block in the NBA the Blazer faithful are conviced they will grab Tayshaun from us. I hope Prince stays.
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06-04-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by bball2223
Like every other player on the trading block in the NBA the Blazer faithful are conviced they will grab Tayshaun from us. I hope Prince stays.
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blazers definitely got alot of young guys they can offer. trade talk with the blazers would definitely have to start with travis outlaw, assuming that oden, roy, and aldridge are untouchable.
i agree though, i hope prince stay with the pistons. like i mentioned in my other post, stuckey and prince should be untouchable.
i wonder if the blazers would interested in acquiring billups instead. he'll bring that veteran leadership to that blazers ball club. how about billups for outlaw, blake, and 13th pick?
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06-05-2008, 12:23 AM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by DANNY
blazers definitely got alot of young guys they can offer. trade talk with the blazers would definitely have to start with travis outlaw, assuming that oden, roy, and aldridge are untouchable.
i agree though, i hope prince stay with the pistons. like i mentioned in my other post, stuckey and prince should be untouchable.
i wonder if the blazers would interested in acquiring billups instead. he'll bring that veteran leadership to that blazers ball club. how about billups for outlaw, blake, and 13th pick?
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I suggested on the Blazers Forum a trade of Prince for Outlaw, Przybilla and the 13th pick. If Dumars really does want to get back to tough-nosed, kick-*** defense, then Przybilla at C is a good start, even if he comes off the bench. If Rasheed is traded, then to who?
What about a three-way deal?
Detroit Trades: Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, Amir Johnson, Arron Afflalo
Indiana Trades: Jermaine O'Neal
Portland Trades: Travis Outlaw, Joel Przybilla, 13th pick
Detroit Receives: Jermaine O'Neal, Travis Outlaw, Joel Przybilla
Indiana Receives: Rasheed Wallace, Amir Johnson, Arron Afflalo, 13th pick
Portland Receives: Tayshaun Prince
PG: Chauncey Billups...Rodney Stuckey
SG: Richard Hamilton...Juan Dixon (?)
SF: Travis Outlaw...Jarvis Hayes (?)
PF: Jermaine O'Neal...Jason Maxiell
C: Joel Przybilla...Antonio McDyess
Rasheed has an expiring contract and he'd almost certainly request a trade out of Indiana anyways. A healthy O'Neal combined with Przybilla would give the Pistons one of the best shot-blocking combos in the league. Not having to carry the load may also be a lot easier on JO's knee.
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PG: Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar
SG: Kobe Bryant, Sasha Vujacic, Sun Yue
SF: Vladimir Radmanovic, Trevor Ariza, Luke Walton
PF: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum, Chris Mihm, D.J. Mbenga
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06-05-2008, 01:33 AM
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by Damian Necronamous
I suggested on the Blazers Forum a trade of Prince for Outlaw, Przybilla and the 13th pick. If Dumars really does want to get back to tough-nosed, kick-*** defense, then Przybilla at C is a good start, even if he comes off the bench. If Rasheed is traded, then to who?
What about a three-way deal?
Detroit Trades: Tayshaun Prince, Rasheed Wallace, Amir Johnson, Arron Afflalo
Indiana Trades: Jermaine O'Neal
Portland Trades: Travis Outlaw, Joel Przybilla, 13th pick
Detroit Receives: Jermaine O'Neal, Travis Outlaw, Joel Przybilla
Indiana Receives: Rasheed Wallace, Amir Johnson, Arron Afflalo, 13th pick
Portland Receives: Tayshaun Prince
PG: Chauncey Billups...Rodney Stuckey
SG: Richard Hamilton...Juan Dixon (?)
SF: Travis Outlaw...Jarvis Hayes (?)
PF: Jermaine O'Neal...Jason Maxiell
C: Joel Przybilla...Antonio McDyess
Rasheed has an expiring contract and he'd almost certainly request a trade out of Indiana anyways. A healthy O'Neal combined with Przybilla would give the Pistons one of the best shot-blocking combos in the league. Not having to carry the load may also be a lot easier on JO's knee.
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a healthy JO? likelyhood of that happening is slim to none. if JO comes to pistons, we're going to expect him to be low post scorer. i dont know why carrying a load has to do anything with JO's knee but if that holds any truth he's going to have to carry more load and put more pressure on that knee if he wants to play for Detroit basketball. unfortunately, he's not the low same low post scorer he was several years ago, he's magically transformed himself into a jumpshooter. thats the last thing we need here in Detroit. he's not much of anupgrade over rasheed. i love prz shot blocking ability but thats about it. he doesnt bring anything else to the table. he's not a starting center caliber center. love travis outlaw's game. he's going to be good but potential doesnt necessary translate into stardom. plus we're giving up two youngster (amir, affalo) who's got potential to become solid role players for our team. giving up two legit starters for a broken down PF, one-dimensional center, and a somewhat unproven youngster doesnt sound fair to me.
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06-06-2008, 11:44 AM
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Re: Time to break up core?
Billups/ Sheed
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Okafor/ Felton/ Morrison/ #9
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2008-2009 Detroit Pistons
PG: Allen Iverson, Rodney Stuckey, Will Bynum
SG: Rip Hamilton, Arron Afflalo
SF: Tayshaun Prince, Walter Herrmann, Walter Sharpe
PF: Kwame Brown, Jason Maxiell, Amir Johnson
C: Rasheed Wallace
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06-06-2008, 12:45 PM
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urh?!
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Re: Time to break up core?
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Originally Posted by Ruff Draft
Billups/ Sheed
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Okafor/ Felton/ Morrison/ #9
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Tell me how that helps the Bobcats. If they had any logic they wouldn't do that but they do have Jordan as a gm... hmm
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