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Old 02-19-2004, 10:15 PM   #31 (permalink)
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R. Wallace
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It's perfect.

Think of the announcers...
This is great! I feel like packing my bags and moving to Detroit!

Shoot-I can't do that, I am still a Blazer fan.

You guys are so darn lucky! Any idea what number Sheed will wear? We had heard that he chose 36 over 30 so he could represent his friend-Bonzi Wells....I will be curious to see what he does. Do you have a #30 now?

Are you guys aware of what a GREAT 3 point shooter Sheed is? DANG! You are gonna freak when you see the D! I am very jealous!


RAW in Detroit...I am SO glad he is OUT of Atlanta! Hey-don't be so sure he'll want NY in the summer...
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Old 02-19-2004, 11:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I've been a Sheed fan since he played for UNC.

I've always liked the Pistons, I saw them beat the Hawks on 12/27/03 so I guess I'm a bigger fan now since they aquired Sheed.

Ben & Rasheed has some more similarites than their same last names.

Ben Wallace - C F-C 6-9 240 9/10/74 Virginia Union '96 7
Rasheed Wallace F-C 6-11 230 9/17/74 North Carolina '97 8


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Old 02-19-2004, 11:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'm definitely going to be a Detroit fan for the rest of the season. I gotta have something to watch in the playoffs, and my Blazers aren't going to be it.

I can't wait to see Sheed yell at Ben for trying to help out with double teams. it's funny--he sometimes really resents it when guys come over to try to help him out on guys like Duncan and Garnett.

as for the Pacers, Sheed is going to swallow Jermaine's post game alive. in their one game this year, Jerm shot 42% shooting. his percent would've been much worse, but when Sheed sat out (he was covering him exclusively one-on-one) Dale and Zach let him loose a little. (Jerm played 47 minutes.)

Kenyon Martin averaged 40% shooting against us as well. Sheed in single coverage once again.

on top of everything else, he's going to give your team the perimeter shooting that Hamilton lacks. he never seems to get injured. he's a classic "intangibles" guy who just fits seemlessly into a well-run team. and he's been the best player on two teams who made it to the WCF.

I envy long-time Detroit fans. it's definitely time to get excited.
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Old 02-19-2004, 11:52 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Yes, chance.

Nobody is forcing Joe's hand to sign Memo. Obviously the plan is to resign him, but it's not mandatory.

Question: Can we resign Memo <b>before</b> Sheed? How does that work?
I was just expressing how MUCH cap room we actually have. Somebody could offer Memo a max deal and we could match it if we wanted too.

As for resigning Memo before Sheed: the NBA puts a cap hold on free agents, meaning their salary doesn't come off the books until they signs a contract or get waved. So basically we won't have any cap room at all until we renounce Sheed or sign him to a contract. Basically this means that, although we have his bird rights, we can't go over the cap to sign him if we wan't to keep Memo. If we renounce him to get the cap room, we loose his bird rights.

We can match any offer any team throws at Memo or we could offer Sheed any amount of money to stay. To keep both would be a bit tricky, but it is definately doable.
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I was just expressing how MUCH cap room we actually have. Somebody could offer Memo a max deal and we could match it if we wanted too.

As for resigning Memo before Sheed: the NBA puts a cap hold on free agents, meaning their salary doesn't come off the books until they signs a contract or get waved. So basically we won't have any cap room at all until we renounce Sheed or sign him to a contract. Basically this means that, although we have his bird rights, we can't go over the cap to sign him if we wan't to keep Memo. If we renounce him to get the cap room, we loose his bird rights.

We can match any offer any team throws at Memo or we could offer Sheed any amount of money to stay. To keep both would be a bit tricky, but it is definately doable.
It is doable but is more then tricky close to impossible.

Here are some of the best case options.

If you retain Wallace, for anything more then 5 million (about the MLE) you can only match up to 5 million for Okur cause you got 10 million in space right? Being that it is so close to the MLE, perhaps Okur signs a deal at the MLE, then you can resign Wallace for more then a max deal. But Okur may not take the max deal. This was asked in the CBA/Salaries forum, watch there for an answer from one of the cap experts.

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It is doable but is more then tricky close to impossible.

Here are some of the best case options.

If you retain Wallace, for anything more then 5 million (about the MLE) you can only match up to 5 million for Okur cause you got 10 million in space right? Being that it is so close to the MLE, perhaps Okur signs a deal at the MLE, then you can resign Wallace for more then a max deal. But Okur may not take the max deal. This was asked in the CBA/Salaries forum, watch there for an answer from one of the cap experts.

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Well, we are actually over 10 million right now, so if the cap rises we will have about 11. On the radio today Joe was confident that the money would work provided both players wanted to stay. The expansion draft is also a thing to look at, Charlotte might be interested in Elden Campbell's expiring contract or even Corliss Williamson, if either of them gets taken then we are looking at around 16 million in cap room which is by far enough to keep them both.
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Well, we are actually over 10 million right now, so if the cap rises we will have about 11. On the radio today Joe was confident that the money would work provided both players wanted to stay. The expansion draft is also a thing to look at, Charlotte might be interested in Elden Campbell's expiring contract or even Corliss Williamson, if either of them gets taken then we are looking at around 16 million in cap room which is by far enough to keep them both.
Excellent point. I would think 16 is enough to keep them both. Even if Wallace did not want the extra money, 16 split between 2 FA is alot of talent.

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I'm definitely going to be a Detroit fan for the rest of the season. I gotta have something to watch in the playoffs, and my Blazers aren't going to be it.

I can't wait to see Sheed yell at Ben for trying to help out with double teams. it's funny--he sometimes really resents it when guys come over to try to help him out on guys like Duncan and Garnett.

as for the Pacers, Sheed is going to swallow Jermaine's post game alive. in their one game this year, Jerm shot 42% shooting. his percent would've been much worse, but when Sheed sat out (he was covering him exclusively one-on-one) Dale and Zach let him loose a little. (Jerm played 47 minutes.)

Kenyon Martin averaged 40% shooting against us as well. Sheed in single coverage once again.

on top of everything else, he's going to give your team the perimeter shooting that Hamilton lacks. he never seems to get injured. he's a classic "intangibles" guy who just fits seemlessly into a well-run team. and he's been the best player on two teams who made it to the WCF.

I envy long-time Detroit fans. it's definitely time to get excited.
Well hey we are excited we haven't won it all since we bounced the blazers from the finals all kidding aside when Rasheed name gets annouced in pregame the Palace is going to go nuts. Listening to the reaction to the trade on the radio there is about a 98% approval of the trade. Sheed is going fill our need of another consistent scorer and a good low post defender. I personal can't wait till the game tommorow.
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What an incredible trade for the Pistons. The Pistons are now legit title contenders, whereas before they were just a "top 10" contender of sorts. Here's my list of favorites:

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29. Hawks

Sheed brings some much needed scoring, he can score 20 points on any given night. What some may not realize is just how good of a defender he is; make no mistake about it, Big Ben and Sheed are now the best defensive big men combo in the game today.

Man, I'd love to see the Wallaces battle Shaq in the Finals. It would be freaking epic.
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I was not really wanting to trade for Wallace just due to the fact that I thought we would have to give up a lot more than we did. Once I heard the trade go through and that we gave up only second and third teir players for one of the most dominant big men, I started jumping and screaming like a little kid again. Better buckle up, and enjoy the ride!
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we haven't won it all since we bounced the blazers from the finals
doah! there is some irony there that after all these years a Blazer bad boy could take that team to the next level. eh, water under the bridge.

the 2000 WCF hurt so much that the frustration caused by the Pistons ten years earlier really pales in comparison.

12 minutes from a championship, and we blow a 14 point lead to Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal, the three most annoying personalities in basketball.

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