froggyvk

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DetBNyce

I hope so, that would enable us to offer money to both Sheed and Okur, keeping them in Pistons uni's for the forseeable future. I know some of the guys around here don't find it necessary to keep both because we have Darko but I'd rather keep both.

MLKG

We have to try to keep both until Darko's proven he's ready for consistant minutes. If the Bobcat's take Elden, that opens up his spot minutes for Darko anyway. Ten or so every couple games isn't much, but it's a start.

DetBNyce

I agree, that's my main reason with wanting to keep them both. Sheed/Memo, Ben, and Darko up front just isn't enough. I'd much rather have a situation like this year where we have 4 capable big men instead of two. If Elden does get picked up, I'm hoping Joe D. would go after some FA big man, that can provide some quality backup minutes.

rainman

4 guys at the 4/5 is plenty, you want another year of darko sitting on the floor? i sure dont. also are the pistons going to have to leave others unprotected. i think you cant leave off restricted free agents like memo.

froggyvk

We have to protect Memo because he's partially restricted. We don't have to protect Delfino, because he's not under contract. This is what I see:

Protected:
Billups
Hamilton
Prince
Wallace
Okur
Milicic
Williamson

Unprotected:
Campbell

This enables us to keep both 'Sheed and Memo. I'm in favor of keeping both, because our guys are so versitale that Sheed can play the 3,4,5; Memo the 4,5; Ben the 4,5; and I could see Darko eventually being a 3,4,5. I think Darko will mostly be a PF/C, but because of Sheed's flexability we should keep both.

We'd be looking at Sheed, Prince and Delfino at the 3, though one of the two will back up Rip. That leaves Ben, Memo, and Darko for two positions.

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Slasher

I was quite surprised when the Pistons didn't use Elden at least 20 MPG. He is a pretty bulky body, and in the Eastern Conference can be a useful player off the bench.

DetBNyce

When I said "Sheed/Memo" I meant that as either or not both. My fault for the mistake.

On second thought I may be misunderstanding you. I only want Darko as the fourth big man if he can provide some quality PT.

jvanbusk

Where do I sign up for this? I'm a pretty solid supporter of Elden, I think he provides a nice veteran presence in the middle for us. But, he just doesn't get enough burn to justify his salary. If it means that there is more money to throw at Memo/Rasheed, how is that a bad thing?

Personally, I'd rather keep both Memo and Rasheed, especially if we make a nice run in the playoffs. But, I do worry about where Darko is going to get playing time. Next year he should be on the court.

rainman

have you and jvanbusk changed places, now you arent even sure you want darko as the 4th guy in a 4/5 rotation and jvb worries about darko not playing, now i'm confused.

Austin Kent

I say try a line-up of this at least once in the season next year...

C. Mehmet Okur
PF. Ben Wallace
SF. Darko Milicic
SG. Rasheed Wallace
PG. Tayshaun Prince

At least once, it is like 8th graders vs 5th graders all over again.

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DetBNyce

I'm confused too. I want Darko to play, but not at the expense of the team. I would love for him to be the fourth guy behind Ben, Sheed, and Memo provided that he can play quality minutes. By quality I mean looking like he belongs on the court.

rainman