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Old 05-22-2004, 07:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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why leave reggie open on the three line why oh why?
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Old 05-22-2004, 07:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2004, 07:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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O'Neal held Wallace from getting a loose ball, obviously, and there was no call.

Reggie pushed off on that last three.

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Old 05-22-2004, 07:54 PM   #20 (permalink)
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why leave reggie open on the three line why oh why?
After watching the replay, they certainly didn't "leave" him wide open.

In my opinion, there are four reasons why the Pistons lost this game.

1) Turnovers.

2) Gave up too many second chances.

3) Hometown cooking.

4) Playing Elden Campbell for extended minutes in the first half.
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Old 05-22-2004, 07:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Miller for three, Pacers up three, and he trots back like he's having a good game.
you expect the guy who just hit the game winning shot not to celebrate?
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you expect the guy who just hit the game winning shot not to celebrate?
Up to that point he had 2 points. It was a big shot, but not the game-winning shot at the time. Just go to your bench and get some high-fives.
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Old 05-22-2004, 08:36 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Tough, tough pill to swallow, but we kept it close and had a chance to win it in the end. As a road team in the Conference Finals that's all you can ask for. A couple bounces here and there and the outcome could've been different. We lost game 1, but we showed we have what it takes to take the second one. Indiana was the better team tonight, let's aim to do that Monday night.



1. Turnovers -- Not to single anyone out, but Corliss was a walking, talking turnover tonight. It was pointed out to me that he was only credited for one turnover, well it seemed like he had a lot more than that. Or at least was the cause of many more than just one. I usually defend him, but I can't tonight. He played horribly defensively and offensively. Sheed could stand to turn it over fewer times also.

2. Lack of low post presence -- Outside of Ben and Okur (played ok in limited action) I'm dissapointed in our big men. They played like crap and our inability to establish a low post presence was our downfall. Rip and Chauncey, although great tonight, can only get you so far.

3. Second chance points -- There is no way a team that shoots 33% should outscore us, but with 16 offensive rebounds you allow the opposition a chance at at least 32 points. Not a formula for winning at all.


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1. Guard play -- much was made of our subpar guard play against Indy during the regular season. I think what we saw tonight out of our guards is what will be the norm for the remainder of the series.

2. Tay on Artest -- Earlier on in the game it looked like Artest's strength would take Prince out of the game and it did. But after halftime he did a pretty job of making some adjustments and making it tough for Artest.

3. We still have a chance at getting one in Indy. As the road team you want to get one from the home team and we're still in a positon to do so.
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Up to that point he had 2 points. It was a big shot, but not the game-winning shot at the time. Just go to your bench and get some high-fives.
Reggie can do whatever he wants to do after that shot. He made a decisive 3 in the closing seconds of the game. Trotting back like he had a good game? He knows he doesn't have to have a good game, he's just getting the crowd into it. Hell when you have made that many big shots in your career, you can do whatever the hell you want to after a shot like that.
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Up to that point he had 2 points. It was a big shot, but not the game-winning shot at the time. Just go to your bench and get some high-fives.
To paraphrase a Reggie quote:

You could go 1-25 the whole game but when it comes down to the last shot, the rest don't matter.
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Such horrible officiating
Are you by any chance a Heat fan as well?
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Corliss was not a walking turnover tonight. He was a walking missed layup, which when Indiana gets the rebound is just as bad. He went 2-8 and missed 6 shots my grandmother probably could have put in. What a joke. Elden Campbell was even more atrocious, if that is possible. I have no idea why he shot 4 times in only 7 minutes, and how he was able to turn the ball over twice in that same period. Elden Campbell shouldn't even be getting 4 touches a game, let alone 4 shots. Sorry Larry, but that experiment is over.

I hope that this is the worst we will see from Rasheed, because he was horrible. 1-7. 0-3 from 3. He really needs to cut down on his 3 point shooting or maybe even stop altogether, because it really is killing us. He is shooting 23.9% in the playoffs from behind the arc, and that obviously will not get it done. It is beyond me why Larry Brown has not brought this up with him before. Unless you can hit at least 1/3 of your three pointers, you should not be taking any unless a)you are wide, wide open or b)the shot clock is about to hit 0. That's where Rasheed should be right now.

Check this out-combined stats for Rasheed, Corliss, Elden, and Memo- 80 minutes played, 5-21 from the floor, 0-3 from 3, 9 fouls, 8 turnovers. At least one of those guys is going to have step it up big time if the Pistons are going to win. I'm pretty sure it won't be Elden, and I wouldn't be betting on Corliss either.

Despite all that, in my opinion that was a game that we should have won and we did outplay Indiana. What worries me is that it's going to be very tough to outplay them twice in a row on their homecourt, and since we have already done it once and lost it will be even tougher on Monday. What killed us was a)turnovers, b)missed easy opportunities, and c)refereeing. We can't control the last one, but the first two have got to be fixed if we're going to pull this off.
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