Sigh* if only we could all see into the future, what a great power that would be. Anywhoo what does it matter if you think they are going to be better, GMs are going to have justify why any of those players should be taking over an athletic big with legit post skills. And no, there is no way Love is a better prospect
Sigh* if only we could all see into the future, what a great power that would be. Anywhoo what does it matter if you think they are going to be better, GMs are going to have justify why any of those players should be taking over an athletic big with legit post skills. And no, there is no way Love is a better prospect
you obviously think lopez will be a better player than those guys, so me saying he won't be is really no different.
Actually I am not saying he will be a better pro, I am just saying its going to be incredibly hard for a GM to justify picking any of those guys before him. I can see an arguement for Gordon, maybe Augustin but no way is Love a better prospect. I don't even think Love will be able to defend his position in the NBA.
Actually I am not saying he will be a better pro, I am just saying its going to be incredibly hard for a GM to justify picking any of those guys before him.
it's not really that hard. love was a first team all american. shot 10% better from the field than lopez. he outrebounded lopez. he has more range than lopez. he's a better passer than lopez. you don't think that's enough to sell your average fan on taking love over lopez? not to mention that love could potentially be leading his team to a title and the fact that his team is in the final four will already be getting him hype from fans.
Sell? The only sell they need is an athletic 7 footer, that runs the floor well, blocks shot, rebounds well and has a decent array of post moves. Love has had a fantastic season no doubt, but he is undersized, moves like a slug and is lacking in athleticism. All those offensive skills you mentioned really dont matter when teams cant run plays for him. The guy people like to compare him to on the pro level, is 3 times the athlete he is. BTW how many times do GMs actually pick a player because of what fans think?
Sell? The only sell they need is an athletic 7 footer, that runs the floor well, blocks shot, rebounds well and has a decent array of post moves. Love has had a fantastic season no doubt, but he is undersized, moves like a slug and is lacking in athleticism. All those offensive skills you mentioned really dont matter when teams cant run plays for him. The guy people like to compare him to on the pro level, is 3 times the athlete he is. BTW how many times do GMs actually pick a player because of what fans think?
you said it would be hard for a gm to justify picking love over lopez. i just listed a bunch of reasons why it would not be hard.
lopez is listed at 7' 260.
love is listed at 6'10 270.
i wouldn't say love is undersized for a pf unless he ends up measuring out at 6'8(with shoes of course).
and i'll say this again. in college, when a guy like kevin love is one of the biggest guys lopez faced all year, he shot 47% from the field. in the nba, where kevin love is "undersized" to play pf and lopez will be playing center, you don't think that will hurt his offensive game?
WHAT? There is no way Love is even taller than 6'8. The guy isn't even taller than Tyler Hansbrough. And if you think what fans think is a legit reason for GMs to pick a player, then I am sorry man you are in for a rude awakening. How many times have you seen fans on draft day booing vehemently about players picked? Heck just browse through this board and you will see that GMs rarely pick what their fans want.
You keep harping on his 47% from college, alright cool. How about the fact that he moves well for a big guy, has solid low post moves, and very athletic for his size. No one needs convincing that Lopez is a legit 7 footer, Love is an undersized PF. The NBA simply doesn't bode well for guys who are lacking athleticism wise. Have you seen the guys who play the 4 nowadays?
I think Love is probably 6'9'', he's taller than Hansbrough. I agree with everything HB has said so far except that however. Lopez should go ahead of all those guys he listed.
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Is Tyler Smith really a top ten player though? Will he really go that high? I like him, but I don't think he'll go even close to that high.
I don't think he will be drafted in the lottery, but he is going to turn out as one of the ten best players in this draft class. He will be a high impact player, I have no doubt about that.
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Absolutely ridiculous. Darrell Arthur needs to do it in college before I take him seriously as an NBA player. Eric Gordon has some MAJOR questions surrounding him after breaking down in January, and not having the point guard skills. Tyler Smith is not a top 10 guy. I'm a DJ Augustin fan, but that Memphis game doesn't support him going ahead of Brook. What do you know about Gallinari, would you really take him over a legit 7 footer with unquestioned offensive skills?
I could see Randolph, but certainly not Thabeet or Jordan.
So I'm with you on 5 guys ahead of him. Maybe. I can see how you'd evaluate Love up there, but I wouldn't take him ahead of Brook.
I don't think ridiculous is the right term for predictions or quick mock drafts unless you can look into the future or say that Lopez will definitely be an impact player in the league.
Like rocketeer said, his field goal percentage is just atrocious for someone with his size and supposed offensive skills. He should at least be able to shoot over 50 percent, close to 55. What makes you think that he will be more efficient in the NBA when he can't get his shot off as easily because defenders are bigger ?
Arthur didn't have a great year, but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he is playing on a team with potentially five NBA players. He is also playing less minutes than most prospects (nobody on Kansas plays more than 29 minutes), his per minute production combined with the fact that he isn't going to have great stats on a great team is actually good. Based on the P word I like him a lot more than Lopez.
The same goes for Love, he has grown on me during the season because he is fundamentally sound and backed up his attitude. It's one thing to be cocky, but he has also shown that he is very crafty on the court, it's a good combination. Sure he isn't as tall as you want him to be (I think he is 6'9), but then again more and more players are undersized at his position.
As always international prospects are hard to compare with college players, but from what I have seen Gallinari looks to be a lottery pick with the potential to be a Top 10 guy. He has got good size, can shoot, great court awareness, has the ability to pass. He doesn't have one standout skill, overall he is a polished offensive player already.
I think I'm going to do a mock draft later this week.
Arthur didn't have a great year, but I give him the benefit of the doubt because he is playing on a team with potentially five NBA players. He is also playing less minutes than most prospects (nobody on Kansas plays more than 29 minutes), his per minute production combined with the fact that he isn't going to have great stats on a great team is actually good. Based on the P word I like him a lot more than Lopez.
If Brook were playing with five NBA players, dont you think his numbers would be better
Darrell Arthur has all the ability in the world, but with the exception of a couple games in his career, he's never really stood out from the pack. You could watch 20 Kansas games this year and never know that Arthur was an NBA prospect. He got us all excited when they played... I think Florida at the beginning of last season and was amazing, and he's just been a tease ever since. Come to think of it, he's the same kind of tease J.R. Giddens was his two years at Kansas.
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