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Old 04-13-2011, 01:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It adds to the corniness of the video and it's a bad corniness. Like south of B.O.B. corniness.
There is literally only a handful of creative decisions in this video.

1.) The location.
2.) The camera movement
3.) What he's wearing.
4.) How he's performing.

I don't know how it can "add" to the corniness of the video. I mean, without his dancing, it's just him in a large room with lights. Can't really pick any corniness from that, unless you're talking about the song specifically.

As far as his dancing, I really think it's much ado about nothing.
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There is literally only a handful of creative decisions in this video.

1.) The location.
2.) The camera movement
3.) What he's wearing.
4.) How he's performing.

I don't know how it can "add" to the corniness of the video. I mean, without his dancing, it's just him in a large room with lights. Can't really pick any corniness from that, unless you're talking about the song specifically.

As far as his dancing, I really think it's much ado about nothing.
Jay-Z or Kanye or Lupe could pull this video off without prancing around like an extra from Grease

And it doesn't matter how few creative decisions there are, if one of them is bad, then it's bad
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Payton this is dedicated to you

LOL.

I'm not dedicated enough to be a hipster. I have a short attention span when it comes non-conformism (or the guise of non-conformism, at least).
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There is literally only a handful of creative decisions in this video.

1.) The location.
2.) The camera movement
3.) What he's wearing.
4.) How he's performing.

I don't know how it can "add" to the corniness of the video. I mean, without his dancing, it's just him in a large room with lights. Can't really pick any corniness from that, unless you're talking about the song specifically.
I didn't like the whole video. You don't need a thousand creative decision to have something come off as corny. I didn't like how basic the video was. They could've done better even with those same elements. I didn't like any of the choices. The lighting too.

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As far as his dancing, I really think it's much ado about nothing.
I really didn't make a big deal out of it. I said it doesn't help. If someone comes in (for any genre) with this video it would still come off the same way (which is why I don't watch indie rock videos).
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Jay-Z or Kanye or Lupe could pull this video off without prancing around like an extra from Grease

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You misunderstood. I was questioning exactly how it "adds" to any corniness, as if the implication was that there was a fundamental corniness apparent without the dancing.

Of course, one creative decision can make anything bad. That's not my point.

As per Jay-Z or Kanye or Lupe, you're really comparing apples to oranges. This guy has an entirely different background as those three. He's coming from a sketch comedy background. He's inherently silly. That's how he started. His "prance" could be viewed as silly, even corny. But I think it's fine within the context of the video. Absolutely fine.

And Lupe has almost zero charisma in his music videos. Of course he wouldn't prance around.
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He's coming from a sketch comedy background. He's inherently silly. That's how he started. His "prance" could be viewed as silly, even corny. But I think it's fine within the context of the video. Absolutely fine.
Which once again leads me to my first post that it's almost satirical in nature. I don't think that's the impression you want to give off if you really take it serious.
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I don't like the video or the song. I liked Donald Glover's rapping better when he was rhyming over Grizzly Bear and Animal Collective tracks. He didn't come across as serious about it as he does here.
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I didn't like the whole video. You don't need a thousand creative decision to have something come off as corny. I didn't like how basic the video was. They could've done better even with those same elements. I didn't like any of the choices. The lighting too.
No, you don't. But this is really basic. I mean, I don't see this inherent corniness there (without the dancing) that you seem to. It's really minimalist. You can dislike it on that level sure.

I liked the lighting. I liked the camera movement as well.

I'm indifferent to everything else.

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I really didn't make a big deal out of it. I said it doesn't help. If someone comes in (for any genre) with this video it would still come off the same way (which is why I don't watch indie rock videos).
That was directed moreso at the overall reaction.
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No, you don't. But this is really basic. I mean, I don't see this inherent corniness there (without the dancing) that you seem to. It's really minimalist. You can dislike it on that level sure.

I liked the lighting. I liked the camera movement as well.

I'm indifferent to everything else.
There's also the title card at the beginning. It's built up to be something bigger than it really is, and that ties into the song.
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I think the title card is more a product of the times.

Most viral music videos use title cards now.
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That was a campaign he started. He was never seriously considered for the role.
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You don't have to ruin everything ya know....yes we know there's never been a 'black' spidey in the comics, so ya obviously this wouldn't have gone anywhere.
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