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**Goulet** · 07-27-2012, 10:44 PM

when u attempt to max an UFA you're not able to max like 4 guys...you rank who u want to offer to and its fed into the system....my suggestion is that same thing happens here where only your best offer stands (or if u have enough space...2 offers) but ONLY what u can afford...your lower ranked offers get voided...even if your pref guys get matched...so be it...thats realistic....

shmip · 07-27-2012, 11:55 PM

I dont agree with u at all .. If youll let a team to offer just 1 , what will it give them? The other team would match and then what??
Its also the case in kvbl.. The only idea i think about is let a team to offer up to 4 offers or something like that

MemphisX · 07-28-2012, 12:26 AM

You can offer how ever many you want but you can only SIGN as much as your cap allows just like UFA. The first one to accept your offer gets signed and if he gets matched, sorry about that Sammy. I don't even know why this is difficult. It is the same in the real NBA, your money is tied up while the team considers matching your offer. You don't get to go out and sign someone just in case they match. And every other RFA is not going to wait on that decision/your decision.

Like I said, this method artificially inflates the salaries of every RFA because it can be easily abused. Which eventually leads to more artificially inflated salaries as people will just MAX out players before RFA or close to it.

MemphisX · 07-28-2012, 01:48 AM

Oh and just in case...The Los Angeles Clippers match Jonas.

**Ender** · 07-28-2012, 03:06 AM

Knicks match Lamb.

shmip · 07-28-2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemphisX

You can offer how ever many you want but you can only SIGN as much as your cap allows just like UFA. The first one to accept your offer gets signed and if he gets matched, sorry about that Sammy. I don't even know why this is difficult. It is the same in the real NBA, your money is tied up while the team considers matching your offer. You don't get to go out and sign someone just in case they match. And every other RFA is not going to wait on that decision/your decision.

Like I said, this method artificially inflates the salaries of every RFA because it can be easily abused. Which eventually leads to more artificially inflated salaries as people will just MAX out players before RFA or close to it.

well you can look at it from that point of view.. but for example lets say the the wolves would have offered max to davis , davis would have signed their offersheet annd then the mavs would have matched it.. so the wolves will still have tons of money that they can't use to spend in RFA .. its silly ..
about inflating the salaries.. well thats what RFA is all about , i mean giving a contract to player like davis that it isnt a max contract is total stupidity imo..
the Rockets did that exact same thing for the Bulls and Knicks wont match offer.. if i would like to "steal" someone on RFA i will offer a contract that i might think his team wont match..
its like the contracts u gave pj3 and davis .. lets call them uncomfortable for the Thunder and Mavs cause both might option out or be a FA at their prime years in about 3 years

hunerman · 07-28-2012, 09:11 AM

We are still waiting on decisions from the Sonics and whoever had DJO...

shmip · 07-28-2012, 09:17 AM

Hornets

shmip · 07-28-2012, 03:02 PM

The Minnesota Timnerwolves decided to sign Cody Zeller ..
so Terrence rose will take the QO and go back to Seatle

**Dornado** · 07-28-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goulet

when u attempt to max an UFA you're not able to max like 4 guys...you rank who u want to offer to and its fed into the system....my suggestion is that same thing happens here where only your best offer stands (or if u have enough space...2 offers) but ONLY what u can afford...your lower ranked offers get voided...even if your pref guys get matched...so be it...thats realistic....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemphisX

You can offer how ever many you want but you can only SIGN as much as your cap allows just like UFA. The first one to accept your offer gets signed and if he gets matched, sorry about that Sammy. I don't even know why this is difficult. It is the same in the real NBA, your money is tied up while the team considers matching your offer. You don't get to go out and sign someone just in case they match. And every other RFA is not going to wait on that decision/your decision.

Like I said, this method artificially inflates the salaries of every RFA because it can be easily abused. Which eventually leads to more artificially inflated salaries as people will just MAX out players before RFA or close to it.

For whatever it is worth I agree with the above.

hunerman · 07-28-2012, 03:12 PM

I can't afford to get DJO though... So he goes back to New Orleans too

shmip · 07-28-2012, 03:15 PM

yes you can .

shmip · 07-28-2012, 03:16 PM

ohh sorry , yes he is back to the NOH

**Goulet** · 07-29-2012, 12:01 AM

shmip, you're trying to let teams in RFA run around like its UFA...and its NOT...thats why ITS RFA...they're restricted to signing an offer sheet then the team can match but a team cant sign 5 guys to an offer sheet using the same money. This system helps teams sign their own players, we shouldnt flip it so teams can do this...thats what UFA is for!!!!

This is most likely why offer sheets arent always inflated because it ties up your other money. I mean in the NBA they're doing BOTH at once which makes this even more important, but here we can simply limit a team to ONLY offer RFA for their cap space, and of the other team matches, so be it.

I mean its obvious theyd match on anthony davis...so dont waste your time on him, sign someone else or wait to UFA....

RFA's should not be treated as UFA, and here you're attempting to almost let folks do that....

kevinblazer · 07-29-2012, 12:42 AM

if you have 10 mill cap space you should only be able to offer 10 mil in contracts ie one 10 mil deal, not 5 10 mil deals

07-27-2012, 10:44 PM	#61 (permalink)
Goulet P4: Paolo Forlini Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,302 Rep Power: 915585	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) when u attempt to max an UFA you're not able to max like 4 guys...you rank who u want to offer to and its fed into the system....my suggestion is that same thing happens here where only your best offer stands (or if u have enough space...2 offers) but ONLY what u can afford...your lower ranked offers get voided...even if your pref guys get matched...so be it...thats realistic.... __________________

07-27-2012, 11:55 PM	#62 (permalink)
shmip Star Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,535 Rep Power: 298450	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) I dont agree with u at all .. If youll let a team to offer just 1 , what will it give them? The other team would match and then what?? Its also the case in kvbl.. The only idea i think about is let a team to offer up to 4 offers or something like that __________________ FRSL Commissioner,Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons GM

07-28-2012, 12:26 AM	#63 (permalink)
MemphisX Welcome to the Grindhouse! Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 18 Posts: 15,046 Rep Power: 8195455	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) You can offer how ever many you want but you can only SIGN as much as your cap allows just like UFA. The first one to accept your offer gets signed and if he gets matched, sorry about that Sammy. I don't even know why this is difficult. It is the same in the real NBA, your money is tied up while the team considers matching your offer. You don't get to go out and sign someone just in case they match. And every other RFA is not going to wait on that decision/your decision. Like I said, this method artificially inflates the salaries of every RFA because it can be easily abused. Which eventually leads to more artificially inflated salaries as people will just MAX out players before RFA or close to it. __________________ Los Angeles Clippers HQ KVBL L.A. Clippers Team Page 2016 Western Conference Finalist 2017 Western Conference Finalist 2027 KVBL Finalist 2028 KVBL Champions PG Anibal Levrino \| SG DJ Alexander \| SF Sky Johnson \| PF Henry Torre \| C Frank Weiland(MVP) \| 6th Man Nikolai Koznyshev 2018 FRSL Champion L.A. Clippers

07-28-2012, 01:48 AM	#64 (permalink)
MemphisX Welcome to the Grindhouse! Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 18 Posts: 15,046 Rep Power: 8195455	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) Oh and just in case...The Los Angeles Clippers match Jonas. __________________ Los Angeles Clippers HQ KVBL L.A. Clippers Team Page 2016 Western Conference Finalist 2017 Western Conference Finalist 2027 KVBL Finalist 2028 KVBL Champions PG Anibal Levrino \| SG DJ Alexander \| SF Sky Johnson \| PF Henry Torre \| C Frank Weiland(MVP) \| 6th Man Nikolai Koznyshev 2018 FRSL Champion L.A. Clippers

07-28-2012, 03:06 AM	#65 (permalink)
Ender Maple Jordan Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8,812 Rep Power: 3012647	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) Knicks match Lamb. __________________ "Winning is the most important thing in my life,after breathing. Breathing first, winning next"-George Steinbrenner

07-28-2012, 09:11 AM	#67 (permalink)
hunerman Veteran Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,116 Rep Power: 106095	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) We are still waiting on decisions from the Sonics and whoever had DJO... __________________

07-28-2012, 09:17 AM	#68 (permalink)
shmip Star Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,535 Rep Power: 298450	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) Hornets __________________ FRSL Commissioner,Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons GM

07-28-2012, 03:02 PM	#69 (permalink)
shmip Star Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,535 Rep Power: 298450	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) The Minnesota Timnerwolves decided to sign Cody Zeller .. so Terrence rose will take the QO and go back to Seatle __________________ FRSL Commissioner,Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons GM

07-28-2012, 03:12 PM	#71 (permalink)
hunerman Veteran Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,116 Rep Power: 106095	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) I can't afford to get DJO though... So he goes back to New Orleans too __________________

07-28-2012, 03:15 PM	#72 (permalink)
shmip Star Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,535 Rep Power: 298450	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) yes you can . __________________ FRSL Commissioner,Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons GM

07-28-2012, 03:16 PM	#73 (permalink)
shmip Star Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 3,535 Rep Power: 298450	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) ohh sorry , yes he is back to the NOH __________________ FRSL Commissioner,Detroit "Bad Boys" Pistons GM

07-29-2012, 12:01 AM	#74 (permalink)
Goulet P4: Paolo Forlini Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: VA Posts: 3,302 Rep Power: 915585	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) shmip, you're trying to let teams in RFA run around like its UFA...and its NOT...thats why ITS RFA...they're restricted to signing an offer sheet then the team can match but a team cant sign 5 guys to an offer sheet using the same money. This system helps teams sign their own players, we shouldnt flip it so teams can do this...thats what UFA is for!!!! This is most likely why offer sheets arent always inflated because it ties up your other money. I mean in the NBA they're doing BOTH at once which makes this even more important, but here we can simply limit a team to ONLY offer RFA for their cap space, and of the other team matches, so be it. I mean its obvious theyd match on anthony davis...so dont waste your time on him, sign someone else or wait to UFA.... RFA's should not be treated as UFA, and here you're attempting to almost let folks do that.... __________________

07-29-2012, 12:42 AM	#75 (permalink)
kevinblazer fsrl blazers kvbl nuggets Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: portland Posts: 1,447 Rep Power: 151606	Re: 2015 FRSL RFA results (Deadline to match is Saturday 6 PM) if you have 10 mill cap space you should only be able to offer 10 mil in contracts ie one 10 mil deal, not 5 10 mil deals

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