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Drizzy · 12-12-2012, 01:51 PM

People make mistakes drafting KB. Big mistakes. Check the NBA, check the FRSL snake draft, check the rookie drafts every single year.

Bearing on value? Perhaps. The 1st pick is probably better than the 30th pick.

But why refer to draft value when there are ratings right in front of you? Check the draft results of our snake and tell me that every single GM drafted the right guy...

Drizzy · 12-12-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinblazer

absolutely it has bearing on value. would any of the teams trade their player they picked ahead of irving? no, if they wanted him they could have had him. value is set by the market and no teams value him more than the player they choose.

Chris Paul was taken after Derrick Rose, I guess Rose must have more value.

kevinblazer · 12-12-2012, 07:34 PM

well you're pointing out an anomaly, of course there will be those. but in general draft position has a linear conversion to value.

letsgoceltics · 12-16-2012, 06:30 AM

It's funny because I somehow agree and disagree with everyone. I think Noby speaks of some sheds of truth. Kyrie Irving may be better than Rondo depending on the players around him. I don't think Irving is lightyears better than him offensively, but in a bad team with no offensive players, Kyrie is a better fit. I don't know how often you guys watch Celtic games, but Rondo needs decent players around him as much as KG and PP rely on him to create for them. Rondo's inability to make jumpshots is also another reason why you can't give him the ball for a last second shot. Thus, Kyrie may be better than Rondo in some circumstances. Rondo is certainly a more impactful player for his team, but fit has a lot to do with it. I don't think it's as clear cut or ridiculous as Allrim making it to be. It's a good debate though because they are both point guards but have different games and are in different stages in their careers. Though I'm curious what you guys would say if I asked, who you rather have in that 2000 Sixers team that made the Finals? Iverson or Nash?

letsgoceltics · 12-16-2012, 07:28 AM

Wait, in the FRSL? Oh hell, I have no idea in that case.

View Poll Results: Better PG in FRSL right now
Rondo	7	100.00%
Irving	0	0%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

12-12-2012, 01:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
Drizzy KVBL Lions/FRSL Pacers/BBBL Heat Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,007 Rep Power: 439739	Re: Rondo Vs Irving who is the better PG in FRSL right now People make mistakes drafting KB. Big mistakes. Check the NBA, check the FRSL snake draft, check the rookie drafts every single year. Bearing on value? Perhaps. The 1st pick is probably better than the 30th pick. But why refer to draft value when there are ratings right in front of you? Check the draft results of our snake and tell me that every single GM drafted the right guy...

12-12-2012, 07:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
kevinblazer fsrl blazers kvbl nuggets Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: portland Posts: 1,334 Rep Power: 151605	Re: Rondo Vs Irving who is the better PG in FRSL right now well you're pointing out an anomaly, of course there will be those. but in general draft position has a linear conversion to value.

12-16-2012, 06:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
letsgoceltics Player Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 542 Rep Power: 59601	Re: Rondo Vs Irving who is the better PG in FRSL right now It's funny because I somehow agree and disagree with everyone. I think Noby speaks of some sheds of truth. Kyrie Irving may be better than Rondo depending on the players around him. I don't think Irving is lightyears better than him offensively, but in a bad team with no offensive players, Kyrie is a better fit. I don't know how often you guys watch Celtic games, but Rondo needs decent players around him as much as KG and PP rely on him to create for them. Rondo's inability to make jumpshots is also another reason why you can't give him the ball for a last second shot. Thus, Kyrie may be better than Rondo in some circumstances. Rondo is certainly a more impactful player for his team, but fit has a lot to do with it. I don't think it's as clear cut or ridiculous as Allrim making it to be. It's a good debate though because they are both point guards but have different games and are in different stages in their careers. Though I'm curious what you guys would say if I asked, who you rather have in that 2000 Sixers team that made the Finals? Iverson or Nash? Last edited by letsgoceltics; 12-16-2012 at 06:36 AM.

12-16-2012, 07:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
letsgoceltics Player Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 542 Rep Power: 59601	Re: Rondo Vs Irving who is the better PG in FRSL right now Wait, in the FRSL? Oh hell, I have no idea in that case.

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