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BigChris · 03-30-2003, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by <b>NugzFan</b>!
and using your OWN LINK once again: http://hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

jones: $12.32 mill
grant: $12.234 mill
carter: $4.06 mill
butler: $1.795 mill
2003 rookie (assuming 5th spot for now): $2.109 mill (from here: http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm )

total: $32.518 mill

add to that 6 minimum roster slot penalties: 6 times $366,931 (from here: http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#9 )
equals $2.201 mill

new total: $34.7 mill

if cap is at 41 mill, that is 6 mill in cap space.

if its at 42 mill, then thats 7 mill.

and back to the topic at hand...is that enough for arenas? no. is that max level cap space? no. AND thats under the assumption miami signs no one else (odom, kandi, howard, brown, etc). AND it puts them at the cap limit already to fill their roster with minimum salaries guys. good strategy? maybe, maybe not.

and hell if it goes up to 42 mill, thats more for denver to spend on arenas and others.

edit; with the MLE rising to ~5 mill, 6 mill in cap space is good but its not as powerful of a bargaining tool as it would have been a few years ago.

7 million will be enough to sign Arenas. Especially if you throw in , great weather, great environment for a 21 year old, and being exempt of certain taxation in Miami.

Like I said, the chances of Denver getting Arenas are slim to none. The chances of Denver getting anyone good with a 20 win team via free agency are slim to none.

Just get real.

NugzFan · 03-30-2003, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by <b>BigChris</b>!

Uh, the "cap thing" was the point of the debate. lol

You said the Heat wouldn't have the capspace to sign Arenas if they wanted to, and then you changed your tune(and actually helped my debate, lol) and said they will. All the articles and regulations you've pointed to have done nothing but confuse the issue, yet the fact remains: the Heat will have the caproom to sign a player like Arenas.

And the FA signing period doesn't start immediately following the end of the season. It begins in late july.

no, i didnt.

i said they wont have the cap space, and they wont (unless the carter thing of course...something i never swayed from). i proved it TIME AND TIME again with link after link, facts all over the place and i laid out the salaries in black and white.

all you replied with was 'lol...uh yeah whatever' stuff. if you think 6 or 7 mill is enough for arenas, well then thats your problem. not mine. i could say 'we have enough to sign duncan!' but all it does is get my hopes up. im not dumb. i know whats realistic.

who cares when the FA season starts? that doesnt change anything.

NISMO · 03-31-2003, 08:13 AM

NO ONE IS excempt from federal buddy.. state tax aint a lot but the Fed.. is what takes chunks from your pay check...

And from previous post on the paper and quotes from his dad.. gilbert LOVES California and wants to stay here... and likes being in GSW and the big plus is that it aint far from his home town. in LA.

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